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Message: <blockquote data-quote="justabirdwatcher" data-source="post: 3213521" data-attributes="member: 128908">Back when the Bushnell Elites were the Bausch and Lomb Elites, and the need for Green binoc's hadn't yet overcome the birding world, the B&L Elites were highly regarded among birders.  I know several very accomplished birders who bought their B&L Elites back in the 90's, and still use them today.  In fact, it was one of these birders - a former Audubon chapter president - who first let me look at his B&L Elites, and set me on a course to buy my own.  I couldn't believe a $400 binoc. could compete with the "Alpha's" - esp. if it said "Bushnell" on it, but they can.  They are always my pick for a sub-$500 full-sized binocular.  I've still yet to see anything under $500 that is their equal.  I'm very happy with the view from my 8.5x43 Brunton Epoch's, but honestly would be just as happy with the Bushnell Elites.  Only reason I don't still own a pair is that I let a friend talk me out of them.John</blockquote>