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<blockquote data-quote="brocknroller" data-source="post: 3246517" data-attributes="member: 665"><p>Well, it takes me a while to see the light because I have a cataract growing in one eye. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /></p><p></p><p>I think you're still missing my point, which is/was/and shall be world without end, that there's approximately a gazillion SV EL owners out there ("they're selling like hotcakes"), and very few of them are going to sell their SV ELs to buy an SF, <em>and those users are Zeiss's primary target group</em> -- middle-aged hunters and birders with deep pockets and/or large credit lines who like open bridge roofs and EPs with field flatteners. And EDG owners ("open hinge" rather than open bridge now, but still ample room for your fingers). </p><p></p><p>Who are "<em>these </em>people" you talk about? I hope that's not like Ross Perot's "<em>you</em> people" gaff. The only people who want SV ELs who don't have them already are <em>those</em> people (not "these") who are still filling up their pickled pig's feet jars with quarters and saving up for one. </p><p></p><p>Given that it takes 10,400 quarters to buy an SV EL, by the time they save up, Swaro's "next big thing" will be out (and the quarter will be replaced by the 50 cents piece due to runaway inflation caused by optics manufacturers' relentless increases in prices and consumers getting less bang for their buck). </p><p></p><p>"These people" might be millennial hunters and birders who are just starting their careers and are waiting to pay off their exorbitant student loans before purchasing their first alpha. Or move up buyers, who now own second tier bins or off brand roofs such as Maven, who are Movin' On Up to East Side to that deluxe apartment in the sky-i. </p><p></p><p>Yes, they would have more choices, that's what I've already said as an argument against your "cyclic theory," but even though there are more choices today, Swaro is still capturing the lion's share on top of the pile. Hey, it's not like I got a dog in this race. I don't own a Swaro nor am I in close contact with the company's reps or bin designers. And I find some Swaro owners annoying, so I'm the last one to say this for any other reason other than it's simply true. </p><p></p><p>Again, it's not because Zeiss doesn't have competitive products (except in midsized premium roofs) but because its marketing dept. hasn't been as effective and because Zeiss's top bananas arrived after Swaro was already at the party and had filled most of the dance cards. </p><p></p><p>As to your love for Otters and Loons, I must have missed class that day, I don't recall your interest in them. I thought you and your wife were interested in wildflowers and were members of the Royal Society of British Wildflowers or something like that. :h?:</p><p></p><p><B></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brocknroller, post: 3246517, member: 665"] Well, it takes me a while to see the light because I have a cataract growing in one eye. :cool: I think you're still missing my point, which is/was/and shall be world without end, that there's approximately a gazillion SV EL owners out there ("they're selling like hotcakes"), and very few of them are going to sell their SV ELs to buy an SF, [I]and those users are Zeiss's primary target group[/I] -- middle-aged hunters and birders with deep pockets and/or large credit lines who like open bridge roofs and EPs with field flatteners. And EDG owners ("open hinge" rather than open bridge now, but still ample room for your fingers). Who are "[I]these [/I]people" you talk about? I hope that's not like Ross Perot's "[I]you[/I] people" gaff. The only people who want SV ELs who don't have them already are [I]those[/I] people (not "these") who are still filling up their pickled pig's feet jars with quarters and saving up for one. Given that it takes 10,400 quarters to buy an SV EL, by the time they save up, Swaro's "next big thing" will be out (and the quarter will be replaced by the 50 cents piece due to runaway inflation caused by optics manufacturers' relentless increases in prices and consumers getting less bang for their buck). "These people" might be millennial hunters and birders who are just starting their careers and are waiting to pay off their exorbitant student loans before purchasing their first alpha. Or move up buyers, who now own second tier bins or off brand roofs such as Maven, who are Movin' On Up to East Side to that deluxe apartment in the sky-i. Yes, they would have more choices, that's what I've already said as an argument against your "cyclic theory," but even though there are more choices today, Swaro is still capturing the lion's share on top of the pile. Hey, it's not like I got a dog in this race. I don't own a Swaro nor am I in close contact with the company's reps or bin designers. And I find some Swaro owners annoying, so I'm the last one to say this for any other reason other than it's simply true. Again, it's not because Zeiss doesn't have competitive products (except in midsized premium roofs) but because its marketing dept. hasn't been as effective and because Zeiss's top bananas arrived after Swaro was already at the party and had filled most of the dance cards. As to your love for Otters and Loons, I must have missed class that day, I don't recall your interest in them. I thought you and your wife were interested in wildflowers and were members of the Royal Society of British Wildflowers or something like that. :h?: <B> [/QUOTE]
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