Surreybirder's lep blog (1 Viewer)

[MikeWall]

PS I keep trying to turn my chestnuts into dark chestnut without success. I'm pretty sure that some of the 'dark chestnuts' on the Polish website
http://www.lepidoptera.bai.pl/start.php?lang=UK
are mis-named. Does anyone agree?
Ken

One on bottom left is decidedly dodgy...

I'm sceptical about at least 50% of claims of DC. I keep on banging the same drum, but it's not accepted in Hants without good photo or specimen.

Mike

 

[Surreybirder]

Just had a couple of nights in N Devon. Not a lot to report but I did see a clouded yellow, a Nov. moth agg and a rusty dot pearl.
Ken

 

[Surreybirder]

27Oct

The variety of moths has tailed off noticeably now. I had lots of November moth agg last night but the only other species were chestnut, red-green carpet and E postvittana.
This one was exceptionally strongly marked:

 

[charly streets]

The variety of moths has tailed off noticeably now. I had lots of November moth agg last night but the only other species were chestnut, red-green carpet and E postvittana.
This one was exceptionally strongly marked:

Hi Ken,

Don't you fancy having a go at "examining" your November Moth aggs, apparently it's not too difficult! Who knows, you might move on to gen. det-ing micros before you know it

Charly.

 

[Surreybirder]

Hi Ken,

Don't you fancy having a go at "examining" your November Moth aggs, apparently it's not too difficult! Who knows, you might move on to gen. det-ing micros before you know it

Charly.

thanks for the thought, Charly.
Somehow gen deting micros doesn't appeal. Call me squeamish but I'd rather leave it to my CR!
Cheers,
Ken

 

[PaulK]

That is a good candidate for Autumnal Moth - look at the isolated central dot

 

[Surreybirder]

Hi, Paul, I let that one go, but I'll bear that in mind for future ref.
Ken

 

[Surreybirder]

30Oct

As we seem to be in for a cold spell, I ran the trap last night. Not many moths but 2 bricks were new for the year. There was an Udea ferrugalis (first one I've managed to photo in my garden this year). Nothing else much of note except a late rosy footman, a 'white' satellite, and a couple of feathered thorns.
Ken

 

[Fourwings]

Just spent a very enjoyable half hour or so reading this thread, it is both highly informative and great to read.
After the frost they give for mid-week I doubt any of us will be getting much in our traps.

Steve.

 

[Surreybirder]

Hi, Steve. Is the fourwings a reference to your interest in moths?? Edit - no, I see you are into Odos
Glad you enjoyed the thread. I learn from it too - mainly from my mistakes!
It has been a strange year for footmen, as you will have gathered. Not only have I had seven hoary footmen (almost unknown in Surrey until a couple of years ago) but I had a very late buff footman (28th Sept) as well as the late rosy.

The variety of moths will diminish now, for sure. But I'll probably put the trap out from time to time on milder nights.
Ken

 

[Surreybirder]

Not quite so cold this evening so I ran the trap till bedtime. One new for year (sprawler - bringing my garden year list up to 339 approx) and one new for autumn (mottled umber x2) was my total catch!

 

[Surreybirder]

8 Nov

It was much milder last evening, with slight drizzle. It brought in a better catch than recently, though still not spectacular.
December moth (new for year)
sprawler
red-green carpet (2)
Nov. moth agg (2)
feathered thorn (3)
satellite

Plus a micro that looks like S lacunana to me.

Ken

 

[Brian Stone]

I even had a go myself last night and took a couple of Sprawlers (first for a couple of years here) and a real outlier Dark Arches!

 

[Surreybirder]

10th and 11th

Still getting a few moths but not in numbers.
On Fri. night I had:
Nov moth agg
red-green carpet (2)
satellite
sprawler
December moth

Last night:
diamond-backed moth Plutella xylostella
mottled umber

 

[Surreybirder]

Statistics

As there was nothing I wanted to watch on TV this evening, I did a few quick counts of my garden moth list (which now totals 426 with one or two of them awaiting final confirmation.)
My maths doesn't quite add up, but on a quick calculation, the no. of new species added each year to the garden since we moved here is as follows:
2003 2 (before I had a trap)
2004 247
2005 86
2006 75 (44 micros and 31 macros)

It doesn't prove anything except that it is worth persisting (especially if you don't trap all night every night).

 

[PaulK]

As there was nothing I wanted to watch on TV this evening, I did a few quick counts of my garden moth list (which now totals 426 with one or two of them awaiting final confirmation.)
My maths doesn't quite add up, but on a quick calculation, the no. of new species added each year to the garden since we moved here is as follows:
2003 2 (before I had a trap)
2004 247
2005 86
2006 75 (44 micros and 31 macros)

It doesn't prove anything except that it is worth persisting (especially if you don't trap all night every night).

I wish I had time to go through all the micros - your lists sound more impressive then. Surprised you didn't have more macros new this year. I added 54 new macros and most of them were during that hot spell in July.

What did your macro year list end up on mine turned out to be 244 which i'm quite impressed with seeing as though its only a tiny little garden in the middle of a town.

I'm determined to get into micros next year (now i've mastered the basics of pyrals) - probably with a lot of help from the members of this forum.

 

[Surreybirder]

Paul: My 2006 garden moth list for the year so far is as follows (copied off spreadsheet -there are some duplicates). I didn't add all that many macros, it's true, but I hope to add more next year!
Ken

No Species Scientific name
6 Eriocrania subpurpurella
17 Common swift Hepailus lupulinus
143 Nematopogon metaxella
148 Nemophora degeerella
227 Skin Moth Monopis laevigella
216 Nemapogon cloacella
246 Tinea semifulvella
288 Caloptilia stigmatella
288 Caloptilia stigmatella
385 Anthophila fabriciana
397 Glyphipterix thrasonella
411 Argyresthia goedartella
417 Argyresthia spinosella
424 Bird-cherry Ermine Yponomeuta evonymella
441 Paraswammerdamia lutarea
453 Honeysuckle Moth Ypsolopha dentella
464 Diamond-backed moth Plutella xylostella
517 Coleophora alcyonipennella
647 Hofmannophila pseudospretella
648 White-shouldered House Moth Endrosis sarcitrella
658 Carcina quercana
663 Diurnea fagella
668 Luquetia lobella
688 Agonopterix heracliana
695 Agonopterix alstromeriana
697 Agonopterix arenella
779 Bryotropha affinis
789 Bryotropha domestica
800 Batia unitella
816 Scrobipalpa obsoletella
819 Scrobipalpa costella
844 Syncopacma larseniella
854 Anacampsis blattariella
859 Psoricoptera gibbosella
873 Blastobasis adustella
874 Blastobasis decolorella
936 Cochylimorpha straminea
937 Agapeta hamana
938 Agapeta zoegana
945 Aethes cnicana
0964a Cochylis molliculana
970 Pandemis cerasana
972 Pandemis heparana
977 Large Fruit-tree Tortrix Archips podana
980 Archips xylosteana
994 Clepsis consimilana
998 Light brown apple moth Epiphyas postvittana
1001 Lozotaeniodes formosanus
1002 Lozotaenia forsterana
1010 Red-barred Tortrix Ditula angustiorana
1018 Cnephasia communana
1032 Aleimma loeflingiana
1033 Green oak tortrix Tortrix viridana
1041 Acleris sparsana
1042 Rhomboid Tortrix Acleris rhombana
1048 Garden Rose Tortrix Acleris variegana
1076 Syricoris lacunana
1076 Syricoris lacunana
1082 Plum Tortrix Hedya pruniana
1083 Marbled Orchard Tortrix Hedya nubiferana
1086 Hedya salicella
1092 Apotomis turbidana
1093 Apotomis betuletana
1113 Eudemis profundana
1115 Ancylis achatana
1134 Epinotia ramella
1174 Notocelia cynosbatella
1175 Bramble Shoot Moth Epiblema uddmanniana
1176 Epiblema trimaculana
1205a Spilonota laricana
1260 Cydia splendana
1261 Codling moth Cydia pomonella
1274 Dichrorampha alpinana
1288 20-plumed moth Alucita hexadactyla
1293 Chrysoteuchia culmella
1301 Crambus lathoniellus
1302 Crambus perlella
1304 Agriphila straminella
1305 Agriphila tristella
1309 Agriphila geniculea
1316 Catoptria falsella
1331 Water Veneer Acentria ephemerella
1333 Scoparia pyralella
1334 Scoparia ambigualis
1345 Brown china-mark Elophila nymphaeata
1348 Ringed china-mark Parapoynx stratiotata
1354 Small China-mark Cataclysta lemnata
1358 Evergestis pallidata
1361 Pyrausta aurata
1362 Pyrausta purpuralis
1376 Small magpie Eurrhypara hotulata
1390 Udea prunalis
1392 Udea olivalis
1395 Rusty-dot Pearl Udea ferrugalis
1398 Rush veneer Nomophila noctuella
1405 Mother of pearl Pleuroptya ruralis
1413 Hypsopygia costalis
1415 Orthopygia glaucinalis
1417 Meal Moth Pyralis farinalis
1424 Endotricha flammealis
1424 Endotricha flammealis
1428 Bee moth Aphomia sociella
1433 Cryptoblabes bistriga
1439 Trachycera advenella
1452 Phycita roborella
1474 Ephestia parasitella unicolorella
1497 Amblyptilia acanthadactyla
1513 White Plume Moth Pterophorus pentadactyla
1524 Emmelina monodactyla
1631 December moth Poecilocampa populi
1632 Pale Eggar Trichiura crataegi
1634 Lackey Malacosoma neustria
1640 the drinker Euthrix potatoria
1645 Scalloped hook-tip Falcaria lacertinaria
1646 Oak hook-tip Drepana binaria
1648 Pebble hook-tip Drepana falcataria
1651 Chinese character Cilix glaucata
1652 Peach Blossom Thyatira batis
1653 Buff arches Habrosyne pyritoides
1655 Poplar Lutestring Tethea or
1657 Common lutestring Ochropacha duplaris
1658 oak lutestring Cymatophorima diluta
1659 Yellow horned Achlya flavicornis
1663 March moth Alsophila aescularia
1667 Blotched emerald Comibaena bajularia
1669 Common emerald Hemithea aestivaria
1674 Little Emerald Jodis lactearia
1677 Birch Mocha Cyclophora albipunctata
1680 Maiden's blush Cyclophora punctaria
1682 Blood-vein Timandra griseata
1690 small blood-vein Scopula imitaria
1699 Least Carpet Idaea rusticata atrosignaria
1702 Small fan-footed wave Idaea biselata
1707 Small Dusty Wave Idaea seriata
1708 Single-dotted wave Idaea dimidiata
1711 Treble brown spot Idaea trigeminata
1713 Riband wave Idaea aversata
1716 Vestal Rhodometra sacraria
1720 Gem Orthonama obstipata
1722 Flame carpet Xanthorhoe designata
1724 Red Twin-spot Carpet Xanthorhoe spadicearia
1727 Silver-ground carpet Xanthorhoe montanata
1728 Garden carpet Xanthorhoe fluctuata
1738 common carpet Epirrhoe alternata
1742 Yellow shell Camptogramma bilineata
1750 water carpet Lampropteryx suffumata
1758 Barred Straw Eulithis pyraliata
1759 small phoenix Ecliptopera silaceata
1760 red-green carpet Chloroclysta siterata
1764 common marbled carpet C truncata
1765 Barred yellow Cidaria fulvata
1766 Blue-bordered Carpet Plemyria rubiginata
1768 grey pine carpet Thera obeliscata
1769 spruce carpet Thera britannica
1773 Broken-barred carpet Electrophaes corylata
1776 Green carpet Colostygia pectinataria
1777 July highflyer Hydriomena furcata
1778 May highflyer Hydriomena impluviata
1794 sharp-angled carpet Euphyia unangulata
1795X November moth agg Epirrita species
1799 winter moth Operophtera brumata
1803 Small Rivulet Perizoma alchemillata
1812 Maple Pug Eupithecia inturbata
1819 Mottled pug Eupithecia exiguata
1825 Lime-speck pug Eupithecia centaureata
1827 Freyer's Pug Eupithecia intricata
1834 Common pug Eupithecia vulgata
1842 Plain Pug Eupithecia simpliciata
1852 Brindled pug Eupithecia abbreviata
1860 Green pug Pasiphila rectangulata
1862 Double-striped pug Gymnoscelis rufifasciata
1874 Dingy Shell Euchoeca nebulata
1875 Small White Wave Asthena albulata
1881 Early tooth-striped Trichopteryx carpinata
1883 Yellow-barred Brindle Acasis viretata
1884 Magpie Moth Abraxas grossulariata
1887 Clouded border Lomaspilis marginata
1889 Peacock Moth Macaria notata
1893 Tawny-barred Angle Macaria liturata
1902 Brown silver-line Petrophora chlorosata
1904 Scorched wing Plagodis dolabraria
1906 Brimstone Opisthograptis luteolata
1910 Lilac Beauty Apeira syringaria
1913 Canary-shouldered Thorn Ennomos alniaria
1914 Dusky thorn Ennomos fuscantaria
1915 September thorn Ennomas erosaria
1917 Early thorn Selenia dentaria
1919 Purple thorn Selenia tetralunaria
1921 Scalloped Oak Crocallis elinguaria
1922 Swallow-tailed Moth Ourapteryx sambucaria
1923 feathered thorn Colotois pennaria
1925 small brindled beauty Apocheima hispidaria
1926 pale brindled beauty Apocheima pilosaria
1927 Brindled beauty Lycia hirtaria
1930 Oak Beauty Biston strataria
1931 Peppered moth Biston betularia
1935 Mottled umber Erannis defoliaria
1936 waved umber Menophra abruptaria
1937 Willow beauty Peribatodes rhomboidaria
1941 Mottled Beauty Alcis repandata
1944 Pale oak beauty Hypomecis punctinalis
1955 Common white wave Cabera pusaria
1956 Common wave Cabera exanthemata
1958 Clouded silver Lomographa temerata
1959 Sloe carpet Aleucis distinctata
1961 Light emerald Campaea margaritata
1978 Pine Hawk-moth Hyloicus pinastri
1979 Lime Hawk-moth Mimas tiliae
1980 Eyed Hawk-moth Smerinthus ocellata
1991 Elephant hawkmoth Deilephila elpenor
1994 Buff-tip Phalera bucephala
1997 Sallow Kitten Furcula furcula
1999 Lobster Moth Stauropus fagi
2000 Iron prominent Notodonta dromedarius
2003 Pebble prominent Notodonta ziczac
2005 Great prominent Peridea anceps
2006 Lesser Swallow Prominent Pheosia gnoma
2007 Swallow Prominent Pheosia tremula
2008 Coxcomb prominent Ptilodon capucina
2011 Pale prominent Pterostoma palpina
2015 Lunar marbled brown Drymonia ruficornis
2020 figure of eight Diloba caeruleocephala
2028 pale tussock Calliteara pudibunda
2030 Yellow-tail Euproctis similis
2033 Black Arches Lymantria monacha
2037 Rosy footman Miltochrista miniata
2040 Four-dotted Footman Cybosia mesomella
2044 Dingy Footman Eilema griseola
2045 Hoary Footman Eilema caniola
2049 Buff Footman Eilema depressa
2047 Scarce footman Eilema complana
2050 Common footman Eilema lurideola
2060 White ermine Spilosoma lubricipeda
2061 Buff ermine Spilosoma luteum
2064 ruby tiger Phragmatobia fuliginosa
2077 Short-cloaked Moth Nola cucullatella
2088 Heart and Club Agrotis clavis
2089 heart and dart Agrotis exclamationis
2091 dark sword-grass Agrotis ipsilon
2092 Shuttle-shaped dart Agrotis puta
2098 The flame Axylia putris
2102 Flame shoulder Ochropleura plecta
2107 Large yellow underwing Noctua pronuba
2109 Lesser yellow underwing Noctua comes
2110 broad-bordered yellow underwing Noctua fimbriata
2111 Lesser bb yellow underwing Noctua janthe
2112 Least yellow underwing Noctua interjecta
2119 Pearly Underwing Peridroma saucia
2123 small square spot Diarsia rubi
2126 Setaceous Hebrew character Xistia c-nigrum
2128 Double square-spot Xestia triangulum
2133 Six-striped rustic Xestia sexstrigata
2134 square-spot rustic Xestia xanthographa
2154 Cabbage Moth Mamestra brassicae
2160 Bright-line brown-eye Lacanobia oleracea
2173 Lychnis Hadena bicruris
2178 Feathered gothic Tholera decimalis
2179 Pine Beauty Panolis flammea
2182 Small quaker Orthosia cruda
2187 Common quaker Orthosia cerasi
2188 Clouded drab Orthosia inserta
2189 twin-spotted quaker Orthosia munda
2190 Hebrew character Orthosia gothica
2194 White-point Mythimna albipuncta
2198 Smoky wainscot Mythimna impura
2199 common wainscot Mythimna pallens
2205 Shoulder-striped wainscot Mythimna comma
2225 Minor shoulder-knot Brachylomia viminalis
2227 Sprawler Brachionycha sphinx
2231 deep-brown dart Aporophyla lutulenta
2232 black rustic Aporophyla nigra
2240 Blair's shoulder-knot Lithophane leautieri hesperica
2243 Early grey Xylocampa areola
2245 green-brindled crescent Allophyes oxyacanthae
2247 merveille du jour Dichonia aprilina
2248 brindled green Dryobotodes eremita
2252 large ranunculus Polymixis flavicincta
2256 satellite Eupsilia transversa
2258 the chestnut Conistra vaccinii
2262 the brick Agrochola circellaris
2263 red-line quaker Agrochola lota
2269 centre-barred sallow Atethmia centrago
2270 lunar underwing Omphaloscelis lunosa
2271 orange sallow Xanthia citrago
2272 barred sallow Xanthia aurago
2274 sallow Xanthia icteritia
2278 Poplar grey Acronicta megacephala
2284 Grey Dagger Acronicta psi
2289 Knot grass Acronicta rumicis
2291 Coronet Craniophora ligustri
2293 marbled beauty Cryphia domestica
2297X Copper underwing agg Amphipyra sp.
2297 Copper Underwing Amphipyra pyramidea
2298 Svensson's Copper Underwing Amphipyra berbera svenssoni
2299 Mouse moth Amphipyra tragopoginis
2300 Old Lady Mormo maura
2303 straw underwing Thalpophila matura
2306 Angle shades Phlogophora meticulosa
2311 Double Kidney Ipimorpha retusa
2314 Dingy Shears Parastichtis ypsillon
2315 Heart Moth Dicycla oo
2318 Dun-bar Cosmia trapezina
2319 Lunar-spotted Pinion Cosmia pyralina
2321 Dark arches Apamea monoglypha
2331 Small clouded brindle Apamea unanimis
2335 Slender brindle Apamea scolopacina
2337 Marbled minor Oligia strigilis
2339 Tawny Marbled Minor Oligia latruncula
2341 Cloaked Minor Mesoligia furuncula
2340 Middle-barred minor Oligia fasciuncula
2343X Common rustic agg Mesapamea sp.
2353 Flounced Rustic Luperina testacea
2361 Rosy rustic Hydraecia crinanesis
2364 Frosted Orange Gortyna flavago
2375 Large Wainscot Rhizedra lutosa
2380 Treble lines Charanyca trigrammica
2381 Uncertain Hoplodrina alsines
2384 Vine's Rustic Hoplodrina ambigua
2389 Pale mottled willow Paradrina clavipalpis
2396 Rosy Marbled Elaphria venustula
2400 Scarce Bordered Straw Helicoverpa armigera
2410 Marbled white-spot Protodeltote pygarga
2423 Oak nycteoline Nycteoloa revayana
2425 Nut-tree tussock Colocasia coryli
2434 burnished brass Diachrysia chrysitis
2441 Silver-Y Autographa gamma
2447 Scarce Silver Y Syngrapha interrogationis
2450 The spectacle Abrostola tripartita
2452 Red Underwing Catocala nupta
2469 Herald Scoliopteryx libatrix
2473 Beautiful Hook-tip Laspeyria flexula
2474 Straw dot Rivula sericealis
2477 The snout Hypena proboscidalis
2489 Fan-foot Zanclognatha tarsipennalis
2492 small fan-foot Herminia grisealis

 

[Surreybirder]

224 macros, I make it, not counting aggs. I should get at least two more yet - Winter moth and November moth (not aggs).
Ken

 

[PaulK]

Heart moths a bloody good moth to have is it not - is there a population locally to you do you know?

 

[Surreybirder]

I believe that heart moth is a RDB species.
Of those on my list, scarce silver-Y was a 4th record for Surrey and two of the micros were equally rare.
Ken