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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jring" data-source="post: 3468999" data-attributes="member: 133897">Hi David,I'm using the kit 2" diagonal which came with the ED80 - the horizontal flip is not too much of a problem since it resides on a little GEM at my bedroom window overlooking the river and a little bird refuge at the other bank and aiming with the GEM is a bit different anyways... On the other hand, that way I can quicky grab the GEM plus scope and carry it on the balcony for night use. When I have it on a normal tripod and head (happens rarely since my old Kowa is a lot more portable and good up to 85x too), I feel like I miss an amici prism, which will probably impair the view...Regarding the Swaro objective - I think you are breaking the limit of what a fast ED doublet can do - you either need a slower doublet (ED80 or larger from that series at f7.5 to f9) or a triplet (like your TMB). I could image that the big brothers of the ED80, Evostar 100/900 and 120/900 would work nicely too and give more exit pupil and resolution for cheap. But with you current 3.5x "zoom" this will give too much magnification unless you use uncle al's hand grenade...Joachim</blockquote>