swarovision EL (1 Viewer)

[ingle1970]

I received my Eagle Optics newsletter this morning, and found that EO is running a special whereby you can turn in your old worn EL (as long as it's in working condition) for an instant $800 credit toward the purchase of a new Swarovision EL at EO's regular price, which is $2479.

So that's a new SV EL for $1,679 + your old one. Depending on the condition of your old EL, you might get a better deal selling it online rather than trading it in, but for those who are looking to upgrade, this is one option.

IMNSHO, new SV ELs should all sell for that much w/out a trade in. I know the old capitalist mantra of "what the market can bear" but in this economy, paying $2,500 for binoculars seems quite unbearable.

So trade 'em if you got 'em.*

*except those sensitive to "rolling ball"

hello Brock

$800 dosn't seem a lot for your "old & worn" EL , i mean just how worn are they going to be , you would assume that most people who buy them at least take some reasonable care with them , they have a 30 year warranty after all.

You just send them to swarovski let them do whats necessary , then sell them privately.

What do they do with all the trade-ins anyway ?.....

 

[Kevin Purcell]

Blizdas from EO already posted about this (on this thread!). Post 167.

http://birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=1736180&postcount=167

 

[John M Robinson]

Yeah, the Eagle Optics EL trade in offer is silly at best. It's for suckers who don't know how good Swaro service is. If your bins are a bit used, send them to SONA, or sell them if you wish. The last place I'd be offering them to is EO!

It's just like the decision you make whether to trade your existing car in when you buy a new one, versus selling your own car. We know that the car dealer is going to low ball you on the trade in, so that they can spend a little to detail it and mark it up for some profit. On the other hand selling your own car can be a hassle.

For some folks the easy thing to do will be to trade their old Swaros in for a no muss no fuss deal. I would think most would pass on that and try selling through ebay. Of course not everybody has an ebay account with a good sellers history, so that could be more hassle than it's worth. I have a local store that will take 15% to sell on consignment. Those of us on this forum are way more aware of how to deal with used binoculars than the average guy who owns a pair of Swaros.

John

 

[opticguy]

i've got a pair of the 8.5x42 swarovision els

i really like them, you get a good field of view, great light transmission, and i like the way they fit my hand. my grandfather wears glasses and they work very well for him too.

 

[blizdas]

It's just like the decision you make whether to trade your existing car in when you buy a new one, versus selling your own car. We know that the car dealer is going to low ball you on the trade in, so that they can spend a little to detail it and mark it up for some profit. On the other hand selling your own car can be a hassle.

For some folks the easy thing to do will be to trade their old Swaros in for a no muss no fuss deal. I would think most would pass on that and try selling through ebay. Of course not everybody has an ebay account with a good sellers history, so that could be more hassle than it's worth. I have a local store that will take 15% to sell on consignment. Those of us on this forum are way more aware of how to deal with used binoculars than the average guy who owns a pair of Swaros.

John

I've gotten a number of inquiries on this today since we sent out our email. The logic behind the deal is that we sold a whole lot of EL's 10 years ago when they first came out and people were paying $1200 or so for them. The promo is really geared toward that consumer who sees this as a chance to get $800 back on their 10 year old/$1200 investment. I really wanted to offer people more on the trade-in, but I needed to be realistic about what the market value was of a factory refurbed EL's. Once we get these in, we'll probably be offering them up for about $1500.
I realize this offer's appeal isn't for everyone, but I'm hoping it doesn't come across like we're trying to take advantage of anyone either! :eek!:

Ben

Ben Lizdas
Sales Manager
Eagle Optics

 

[oleaf]

Those of us on this forum are way more aware of how to deal with used binoculars than the average guy who owns a pair of Swaros.

John

The "average guy" who owns a Swaro? Kinda like the average guy who drives a Bentely :-O

Cheers

 

[brocknroller]

The "average guy" who owns a Swaro? Kinda like the average guy who drives a Bentely :-O

Cheers

Oleaf, I heard that "Joe the Plumber" owns an EL. But, hey, plumbers make good money, particularly ones who did speaking engagements and book signings during their 15 minutes of fame.

 

[Kevin Conville]

I wish you wouldn't have mentioned that Brock. Now I have another reason not to try a pair, other than price.

 

[ceasar]

Brock,
You have mistaken him for Joseph De Plummer, a millionaire Dutchman.
Bob

 

[brocknroller]

Brock,
You have mistaken him for Joseph De Plummer, a millionaire Dutchman.
Bob

No, I'm sure it was Joe the Plumber. Here's an excerpt from a transcript of Joe's recent interview with Katie Couric:

"Yeah, well, Sarah decided that, like, she wanted to redistribute the wealth too, so she gave me her brand new Zaborski binoculars - you know, the kind with the hole the middle - that she uses to hunt caribou and watch Russia from her house. I originally had my doubts about the Russia thing, but there was so much 'rolling ball' in image that now I believe she could see around the globe."

 

[ronh]

Oh, I am dipped in holy doo! Tried one in Sportsman's Warehouse today ("those are crystal binoculars". My wife actually told me he was going to say that. What a girl!)
Compared to the old, it seemed a little shorter, a tad lighter, nicer with increased gripping surface on the insides, sharp to the edge, and absolutely distortion free. Rolling ball didn't bother me like I thought it would. I am aware of some geometrical swooping out there if there's lots of pincushion, like in a Leica, anyway.

In the bright fluorescent lit store filled with loud colored things, I could only say that optically it seemed sensibly perfect, but that's a poor test range, nothing to show CA, no dark places to look into. The clerk also handed me a new $300 Vortex, hoping money was the object and I couldn't tell the difference I think. Gak!
Ron

 

[jgraider]

I've gotten a number of inquiries on this today since we sent out our email. The logic behind the deal is that we sold a whole lot of EL's 10 years ago when they first came out and people were paying $1200 or so for them. The promo is really geared toward that consumer who sees this as a chance to get $800 back on their 10 year old/$1200 investment. I really wanted to offer people more on the trade-in, but I needed to be realistic about what the market value was of a factory refurbed EL's. Once we get these in, we'll probably be offering them up for about $1500.
I realize this offer's appeal isn't for everyone, but I'm hoping it doesn't come across like we're trying to take advantage of anyone either! :eek!:

Ben

Ben Lizdas
Sales Manager
Eagle Optics

Sounds like a great deal for you, doubling your money instantly!

 

[henry link]

I like "sensibly perfect" as a description, Ron. Still I'm the sort of whiner who sees the glass as 2% empty instead of 98% full. Take the new EL and add just a touch of pincushion like the Nikon EDG and substitute higher transmission AK prisms like the Zeiss FL and my whining days might be over.

BTW, lateral CA looks pretty vivid toward the edge of the field to me, but I don't think it's any worse than usual. I think it stands out because the out of focus colors are in such stark contrast to the generally sharp image at the edge. In other binoculars it all runs together.

Henry

 

[Kevin Purcell]

I like "sensibly perfect" as a description, Ron. Still I'm the sort of whiner who sees the glass as 2% empty instead of 98% full. Take the new EL and add just a touch of pincushion like the Nikon EDG and substitute higher transmission AK prisms like the Zeiss FL and my whining days might be over.

It's always the next model ...

Perhaps the next Zeiss bin revision, Henry. Once they've got the new Diascope out of the way

 

[Kevin Purcell]

Sounds like a great deal for you, doubling your money instantly!

Well, the refurb work isn't free especially as pointed out before most that will upgrade are those with the original slow focus so that will need to be changed out (more than a couple of hundred dollars at least I've seen mentioned here).

Blizdas: does the refurb work bring them up to consistent "last EL model" standard?

 

[mooreorless]

Oh, I am dipped in holy doo! Tried one in Sportsman's Warehouse today ("those are crystal binoculars". My wife actually told me he was going to say that. What a girl!)
Compared to the old, it seemed a little shorter, a tad lighter, nicer with increased gripping surface on the insides, sharp to the edge, and absolutely distortion free. Rolling ball didn't bother me like I thought it would. I am aware of some geometrical swooping out there if there's lots of pincushion, like in a Leica, anyway.

In the bright fluorescent lit store filled with loud colored things, I could only say that optically it seemed sensibly perfect, but that's a poor test range, nothing to show CA, no dark places to look into. The clerk also handed me a new $300 Vortex, hoping money was the object and I couldn't tell the difference I think. Gak!
Ron

So Ron you are saying the $300 Vortex is sharp to the edge and absolutely distortion free, what I want too know is why didn't you buy the Vortex if it was "that" good?

 

[Fireform]

Nobody has made a perfect binocular yet. The Swarovision is the biggest step that direction in a long time, though.

 

[Sancho]

Nobody has made a perfect binocular yet. The Swarovision is the biggest step that direction in a long time, though.

Perfect enough for me. Anything more perfect would have these optics and Image-Stablisation. (Maybe in Binocular Heaven). ATM, I notice significant price variation across UK online dealers....from 1595 to 1742 sterling. The former price was at Infocus, I got mine there, highly recommended, no connection etc.

 

[ingle1970]

Perfect enough for me. Anything more perfect would have these optics and Image-Stablisation. (Maybe in Binocular Heaven). ATM, I notice significant price variation across UK online dealers....from 1595 to 1742 sterling. The former price was at Infocus, I got mine there, highly recommended, no connection etc.

are they not shifting them fast enough ?...

 

[ceasar]

I don't need perfection!

And fortunately for me, neither does my wife!

Bob