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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BruceH" data-source="post: 3527295" data-attributes="member: 106398">The newest SLC does create a quandary in that it does not have a close focus compared to the other top tier models.  Does that eliminate it from top tier classification?  I do not know and am undecided.  There is no standard definition of what is an "alpha" binocular so it is up to the individual to decide.  I do consider the prior SLC WB HD to be top tier.  Actually I think it handles stray light slightly better than a couple of EL SV units that I have so technically, it may actually be better than the EL SV.  The SLC does not have the edge sharpness of the EL SV, but that may not be bad because some members have stated they do like the flat field view.An argument can be made for two classes of top tier binoculars.  Those that have lens flatteners and those that are a classic design without lens flatteners.  Much of the comparisons of the new Noctivid are with the Zeiss SF and the Swaro EL SV.  Would it be more appropriate to compare it to the SLC and the Zeiss HT since it seems Leica did not go the lens flattener route with the Noctivid.  Here are what I consider high end lens flattener design binoculars:- Zeiss SF- Swaro EL SV- Nikon EDG- Canon 10x42 is L ( I seem to recall is has lens flatteners)- Nikon SE Here are what seem to be high end classic models:- Leica Noctivid- Zeiss HT- Swaro SLC WB HD and possibly the newest SLC WB- Leica Ultravid Plus- Kowa Genesis- Meopta Meostar- Maven B1 and B2That list is from memory so I may have left some out.  Also opinions will vary but there appears to be general consensus on these from what I have read and experienced.</blockquote>

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