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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CliveP" data-source="post: 3305068" data-attributes="member: 85835">So onto stage two of part two of my test process.Yes the fag and Rosie lea at the back door test (not what you Americans are probably thinking8-P).This is actually a really good test for glare as the glass in my back door (to the garden) reflects light across the front of the bins and if they are glare prone then it will show here.So the Hawke gets eliminated and so should the Bresser really but since it's the subject then I suppose it has to stay.There is a nice view of trees and gulls flying about and various birds on the lawns around like pied wagtails so these were my targets to try for most definition. Also those silver chrome type car brand signs on the cars I find to be good targets and the Bresser didn't score highly here compared to the other two in fact with nothing so far does it stand out as a winner I am very sorry to say.The Vistron wins and it doesn't even focus properly. I know as I have said previously that the Bresser can perform nicely at times, probably during summer is best. It's well priced and is nice to handle and looks good with good accessories and it has good lens coatings for nice colours and if that could be put into the Vistron then that would be super.I'm saying what I think about it and trying here to think what others would expect and want and so I couldn't honestly point anyone to buying this Everest 8x28. It needs to do better simply put. It needs less glare, wider field would be nice, and brighter would also be a plus. You can bird with it on a good day and it would be great for a tourist holiday travel bin or car bin or hiking or such but personally I'd probably seek better even if I had to pay more and I can't blame the binocular not working because this one does, so that's that pretty much. I know I preferred the Bresser over my Vistron during summer when using it as a back garden bin because it had better pleasing colour and contrast than the Vistron so that's probably how I will use it again although I'm sure I will grab it for some outdoor use occasionally.All of the three bins I've discussed have their problems but the Vistron clearly shows the most potential and it's not even made anymore?There is something odd though about this Bresser that I did notice before but didn't mention and it is that you do keep wanting to have a look through it. I just can't exactly grasp why but I think I get a certain amount of that with all three of them. It's as if you are thinking maybe this time it will look good and sometimes with all three  this does actually work so I guess it's the one that most often looks good is probably best and that would be the Vistron but on a good day the one that can look the best could actually be the Bresser, or maybe even the Hawke such as this morning. I guess what I am saying is the Vistron is most consistent and the Bresser with it's great colour etc can be the most pleasing. When the Bresser works well in bright enough light it is nice.It's getting brighter and you can see the clarity and sharpness of the Bresser improving so I have been a little bit harsh in not doing the comparison later or on a brighter day. There still definitely is something about the Bresser that I like and I guess that's an improvement on my very first impression at least. I guess each of the three bins have strengths that if combined would surely be something very good.Would I wholeheartedly recommend it. It's actually difficult to say. For me I'd spend more if needed and look for better but for anyone not bothered it probably is worth the £100 asking price but I suspect there are better 8x25 out there so where it falls down is it doesn't actually do what you would want of a bin with larger objectives i.e. it isn't more effective in lower light but it is pretty in good light. I guess that sums it up probably right there. You decide.So that's a wrap. The End. Now just wondering can I get my Vistron focus serviced with Viking?</blockquote>

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