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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CliveP" data-source="post: 3305763" data-attributes="member: 85835">Well my conclusion today is that basically I have the Bresser back for usage as my Kitchen bin as here it really does work very well.Outdoors it was okish so really I have to conclude that I am in the market for another 8x30/32 and I'm thinking again M7 8x30 for compactness as I do like my M7 10x30 and I expect the 8x30 is a little brighter and of course better for wider angles.When I think about the Everest 8x28, it really should be very good on the value side of things as I see it's going for about 100Euro so around a 1/3 the price of the M7 and I would say it's around half as good so I conclude there is something wrong with this thinking as the M7 is a proper small bin and the Bresser just basically isn't. The APOV is to small and today I got a lot of light haloing around the small view at times, in fact often, making the usable portion of the already small view even smaller.As I say I don't really get this particular Bresser and I wish they would have perhaps taken the opportunity to maybe suggest something else (or perhaps I should have suggested it) that was actually like  properly good binocular and I would have paid the difference.So an M7 8x30 in the sights currently for me. No more messing around. My Kowa SV 8x32 is reserved for no strap ready in reach to grab home use.</blockquote>