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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrankD" data-source="post: 1277372" data-attributes="member: 18544">Lots of comments for me to comment on....I saw that too and spoke to Doug. I should have a demo in my hands next week for review. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> Look for a comparison between it and the Pentax 65 ED A.Bob A,That woudl be two SLCs that have come and are about to go. Both 7x42s. I almost bit the bullet and bought an 8x30 but that pinky focusing has me a bit indecisive. These will be the only two ELs I have bought and sold. The Meopta was returned about a week after I purchased it. Truthfully though, other than the CA in high contrast situations that bin also competes very well with the top end.Marcus,I must admit that I laughed (good naturedly) when I first read your post. I do not think you will be disappointed with them. As I said in my earlier posts, optically these binoculars are probably the closest thing I have seen to the Alpha bins I have owned. They most certainly compete optically with the ELs in terms of centerfield apparent sharpness, color, contrast and are actually better in terms of controlling color fringing. The slightly smaller apparent field of view (60 vs 64 degrees) is noticeable but at 393 feet for a full sized 8x I would hardly call it restrictive.Ergonomically and mechanically it could use some improvements. As I said the focus on my unit has some play in it.....the open bridge could be a little bit longer between supports for better finger placement and the eyecups could be a bit more comfortable but, in my opinion, the optical quality more than makes up for the physical/mechanical deficits at least from my perspective. To put it in plain terms, imagine the Vortex Razor body with Monarch quality eyecups and armoring but with high end quality optics.FWIW, I do not believe Doug set a price yet but I do know he has some in stock. I would guess either right at the $500 price point or slightly less. I just don't know how anyone could turn that down unless you already own several high end bins. If you are fishing for a steal in terms of price versus perfomance and you are in the market for a new bin then you really deserve to give this bin a try.As for the focus, I believe Steve hit the nail on the head. I do not notice much if any problem with the focusing speed at moderate to long ranges. Going from fairly close focus (10-15 feet) and then focusing out to 60-70 feet does take more time than normal but it also gives you a bit more control of the sharpest focus. I never owned an original EL but I wonder if this Promaster focus is similar to it.</blockquote>

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