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Message: <blockquote data-quote="OPTIC_NUT" data-source="post: 3327856" data-attributes="member: 121951">"The Celestron 20x80 binocular shows excellent detail at 11 miles.I cannot think of many occasions when 20x60, 18x50 and 30x50 binoculars have been seriously affected by poor Seeing."Actually, those powers are all below the 'seeing' issues I'm referrring to,   so we are not inconsistent.  Nothing there is at 50x or beyond,   so you  would be seeing images jump a little up and down, but not break up.."Temperate climes have their advantage."There might be a more subtle point in that...You are in a 'moderate temperate' climate, whereas I (in "New England", not "Old England") average outto temperate, but the temperature mixing that is more severe very often....I can understand decent detail at 11x or 20x far away...that's the wise way to approach distance, by not pushing the power..Sniper/spotter teams regularly work with ED/larger-objective scopes at 10x---15x.</blockquote>