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<blockquote data-quote="Fireform" data-source="post: 1756543" data-attributes="member: 65457"><p>Gee, Steve--I don't see how anyone could get the impression are defensive where Zen-Ray is concerned. It's clearly the depth of cabin fever time in Klamath Falls (yes, I've been there).</p><p></p><p>I'm glad that you admit I never said that Zen-Ray binoculars stink, or anything remotely like that, and I hope that with time you may even manage to accept the fact that I have praised their binoculars quite extensively. Plenty of people have had criticisms of the Zen-Rays, so I am not sure how I've been singled out as the bad guy. My main criticism of the Zen-Ray 7x36 was met (to Zen's great credit) with a design revision, which would suggest that I wasn't just making stuff up.</p><p></p><p>I do have to say though, since you feel that I've "hit Zen-Ray below the belt" and thus deserve a stern talking-to, that I have never read any account of anyone having a binocular repaired by Zen-Ray. Replaced, yes. Repaired? No. I just point out this tiny detail because it's hard for a literal-minded guy like myself to understand how a company can be said to posses a repairs department if they don't actually do repairs. </p><p></p><p>And finally, you can bluster and assert all you want, but if Zen-Ray is not actually just a handful of guys importing stuff they've ordered from a Chinese factory, what is the proof? I haven't seen a shred of it. And if they are, so what? Hitting below the belt? The basis of your outrage completely eludes me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fireform, post: 1756543, member: 65457"] Gee, Steve--I don't see how anyone could get the impression are defensive where Zen-Ray is concerned. It's clearly the depth of cabin fever time in Klamath Falls (yes, I've been there). I'm glad that you admit I never said that Zen-Ray binoculars stink, or anything remotely like that, and I hope that with time you may even manage to accept the fact that I have praised their binoculars quite extensively. Plenty of people have had criticisms of the Zen-Rays, so I am not sure how I've been singled out as the bad guy. My main criticism of the Zen-Ray 7x36 was met (to Zen's great credit) with a design revision, which would suggest that I wasn't just making stuff up. I do have to say though, since you feel that I've "hit Zen-Ray below the belt" and thus deserve a stern talking-to, that I have never read any account of anyone having a binocular repaired by Zen-Ray. Replaced, yes. Repaired? No. I just point out this tiny detail because it's hard for a literal-minded guy like myself to understand how a company can be said to posses a repairs department if they don't actually do repairs. And finally, you can bluster and assert all you want, but if Zen-Ray is not actually just a handful of guys importing stuff they've ordered from a Chinese factory, what is the proof? I haven't seen a shred of it. And if they are, so what? Hitting below the belt? The basis of your outrage completely eludes me. [/QUOTE]
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