BirdForum is the net's largest birding community dedicated to wild birds and birding, and is absolutely FREE!

Register for an account to take part in lively discussions in the forum, post your pictures in the gallery and more.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="birdazzLED" data-source="post: 1760404" data-attributes="member: 83781">So Zen Ray may be just a couple people spec'ing and ordering bins from China and it appears evident due to there is no will-call pick-up even though I live in the same small city. If this is true, it okay by me - though I have purchased products out of someone's garage or home in the past and see nothing wrong with it.The bottom line is that I want the best glass money can buy on a budget. Zen Ray seems to have filled that requirement nicely.Dealing with Zen Ray is much easier because just my simple inquiry email to Xi'an optics had them asking me repeatedly what I would like to order. There is a language barrier that I would rather not get into as it required several repetitive emails just to get information on one product. Charles appears to have a good, established relationship with the factory and that is hard to do in China, from what I've heard and experienced some what. For all I know, he probably speaks Chinese as well!</blockquote>