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<blockquote data-quote="halftwo" data-source="post: 1587139" data-attributes="member: 45720"><p>Some great stories and insight into how we birders think & tick.</p><p>I've a few things on my list which I'm happy with but would love to see a better view of.</p><p>So those go on and I hope for more views of the same.</p><p></p><p>Here's two examples from a recent trip to Borneo:</p><p></p><p>One: Had poor views of an unfamiliar bird which I wouldn't have been able to id. from what I saw, but it was singing. (I don't tick heard-only stuff, by the way).</p><p>Having arrived home, and having a very rough inkling of the id., I found a recording of the song which matched my tape-recording of the actual bird exactly: Moustached babbler. </p><p>Now would you put that on your list?</p><p></p><p>Two: Several times a flock of Frigates would hang in the air at the coast. Now there are three possibles: Lesser, Great, and Christmas Island. (I still need the last two) Twice I was fairly confident that amongst the Lessers was a Great or two - but the various plumage types mean you need a really good view (unless you get one with a diagnostic plumage) and I decided NOT to tick on these views - still hoping to see a good view I'm happier with.</p><p></p><p>And I think that's the point: on both of the above examples I want to see those birds again, but for ticking purposes there's no shadow of doubt of the id. of the first, a tiny nagging doubt for the second; hence my tick decisions. </p><p></p><p>Colin's phyllosc example above is a real case in point. These are a real pitfall - and I was happy to tick some before I knew of all the possibles to eliminate. When birding in Asia I find id.ing this group especially challenging - I had a probable Arctic warbler last week which, if I'd seen in the UK I'd be happy with.</p><p></p><p>At the end of the day it's your list - if you're (literally) happy with it then tick it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="halftwo, post: 1587139, member: 45720"] Some great stories and insight into how we birders think & tick. I've a few things on my list which I'm happy with but would love to see a better view of. So those go on and I hope for more views of the same. Here's two examples from a recent trip to Borneo: One: Had poor views of an unfamiliar bird which I wouldn't have been able to id. from what I saw, but it was singing. (I don't tick heard-only stuff, by the way). Having arrived home, and having a very rough inkling of the id., I found a recording of the song which matched my tape-recording of the actual bird exactly: Moustached babbler. Now would you put that on your list? Two: Several times a flock of Frigates would hang in the air at the coast. Now there are three possibles: Lesser, Great, and Christmas Island. (I still need the last two) Twice I was fairly confident that amongst the Lessers was a Great or two - but the various plumage types mean you need a really good view (unless you get one with a diagnostic plumage) and I decided NOT to tick on these views - still hoping to see a good view I'm happier with. And I think that's the point: on both of the above examples I want to see those birds again, but for ticking purposes there's no shadow of doubt of the id. of the first, a tiny nagging doubt for the second; hence my tick decisions. Colin's phyllosc example above is a real case in point. These are a real pitfall - and I was happy to tick some before I knew of all the possibles to eliminate. When birding in Asia I find id.ing this group especially challenging - I had a probable Arctic warbler last week which, if I'd seen in the UK I'd be happy with. At the end of the day it's your list - if you're (literally) happy with it then tick it. [/QUOTE]
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