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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dries1" data-source="post: 3670861" data-attributes="member: 26646">ZeissIn regard to the SF, it no doubt is a great design by Zeiss and a recent one if I am correct. To save weight composites were used and it will be used by many more folks who may not use or purchase a great glass if it is too heavy. When I hand them my HgLX 10X42 they cringe with their mouth wide open, (almost 1000 grams) it is too heavy for many of the birding/nature viewing folk. Many SFs will be sold because of the view,light weight, and the weight distribution.I have moved on regarding what happened to both binos I ordered, If I can see a good SF behind the counter I will try it and If I can get one that I can use prior to purchase I most likely will buy it, but not this year. Why, I will wait until any residual bugs are worked out over time, and I have many great binos to enjoy the view.My father Willem bought the glass below next to the SF, and many waited until it had been out on the market for a while. It turned to be an OK glass, less than the Nobelem Special 8X50 (not many made and pricey) and lighter and easier than the Zeiss Oberkochen 8X50.Time will tell, in the mean time I am enjoying the view through my other glass.The pic was the first SF, prior to being be fuddled by the shiny white ring at the edge of my view. It just took away the great view.A.W.</blockquote>