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<blockquote data-quote="mb1848" data-source="post: 3821218" data-attributes="member: 31036"><p>Turdela. The HBW Key refers to Baker-Webb & Bertholet 1836. Here:</p><p><a href="https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/128816#page/33/mode/1up" target="_blank">https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/128816#page/33/mode/1up</a> .</p><p>I think this is not Latin or not a genus name. Grive (Turdela) </p><p>I did see Turdelam used by Brisson. Here:</p><p><a href="https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/125623#page/248/mode/1up" target="_blank">https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/125623#page/248/mode/1up</a> .</p><p>Not sure if this is Latin or if it is a genus name?</p><p>Melizocincla Wolters v. VI s. 405 1980.</p><p>Orig. Descr.</p><p>"Melizocincla subg. nov. - Gekennzeichnet durch die Kombination von spitzem Wandervogelflügel (ausserste Schwinge 10-15mm lang, 9. [von innen gezahlt] zwischen 7, und 6.), pfeilspitzenartige Flecken auf der Unterseite und ockergelbe Unterflügelfedern; Ohrgegend ohne dunkle Zeichnung (Unterscheid zu Otocichla), Schnabel weniger breit als bei der auch ähnlichen Hylocichla (die zudem weisse Unterflügeldecken hat); nicht geschlechtsdimorph (im Gegensatz zu Cichloselys s. str.). Eifärbung charakteristisch (grünblau mit kleinen schwarzen oder dunkelbraunen Flecken). T y p u s : Turdus philomelos Brehm, Handbuch d. Naturgesch. d. Vögel Deutschlands, p. 382 (1831)."</p><p>Quoting from the HBW Key:</p><p>Lamprophonus</p><p>(syn. Turdus Ϯ Song Thrush T. philomelos) Gr. λαμπροφωνος lamprophōnos clear-voiced < λαμπρος lampros clear; φωνη phōnē voice, cry < φωνεω phōneō to speak (cf. φωνος phōnos loud-voiced); "Lamprophonus musicus, Throstle. Lamprophonus variegatus, White's Thrush. Lamprophonus viscivorus, Shrite. Lamprophonus pilaris, Fieldfare. Lamprophonus turdus, Redwing." (Morris 1837) (OD per Björn Bergenholtz). Rev. Francis Orpen Morris was anti-Darwin but also anti- foxhunting? Charles Thorold Wood and Neville Wood seem to a modern person very bad about Latin and animal names.</p><p><a href="https://www.euppublishing.com/doi/10.3366/anh.2016.0380" target="_blank">https://www.euppublishing.com/doi/10.3366/anh.2016.0380</a> .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mb1848, post: 3821218, member: 31036"] Turdela. The HBW Key refers to Baker-Webb & Bertholet 1836. Here: [url]https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/128816#page/33/mode/1up[/url] . I think this is not Latin or not a genus name. Grive (Turdela) I did see Turdelam used by Brisson. Here: [url]https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/125623#page/248/mode/1up[/url] . Not sure if this is Latin or if it is a genus name? Melizocincla Wolters v. VI s. 405 1980. Orig. Descr. "Melizocincla subg. nov. - Gekennzeichnet durch die Kombination von spitzem Wandervogelflügel (ausserste Schwinge 10-15mm lang, 9. [von innen gezahlt] zwischen 7, und 6.), pfeilspitzenartige Flecken auf der Unterseite und ockergelbe Unterflügelfedern; Ohrgegend ohne dunkle Zeichnung (Unterscheid zu Otocichla), Schnabel weniger breit als bei der auch ähnlichen Hylocichla (die zudem weisse Unterflügeldecken hat); nicht geschlechtsdimorph (im Gegensatz zu Cichloselys s. str.). Eifärbung charakteristisch (grünblau mit kleinen schwarzen oder dunkelbraunen Flecken). T y p u s : Turdus philomelos Brehm, Handbuch d. Naturgesch. d. Vögel Deutschlands, p. 382 (1831)." Quoting from the HBW Key: Lamprophonus (syn. Turdus Ϯ Song Thrush T. philomelos) Gr. λαμπροφωνος lamprophōnos clear-voiced < λαμπρος lampros clear; φωνη phōnē voice, cry < φωνεω phōneō to speak (cf. φωνος phōnos loud-voiced); "Lamprophonus musicus, Throstle. Lamprophonus variegatus, White's Thrush. Lamprophonus viscivorus, Shrite. Lamprophonus pilaris, Fieldfare. Lamprophonus turdus, Redwing." (Morris 1837) (OD per Björn Bergenholtz). Rev. Francis Orpen Morris was anti-Darwin but also anti- foxhunting? Charles Thorold Wood and Neville Wood seem to a modern person very bad about Latin and animal names. [url]https://www.euppublishing.com/doi/10.3366/anh.2016.0380[/url] . [/QUOTE]
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