Hi Paul; the Irish rare and scarce whatsapp group has been swamped with this already and it is not a good place to discuss it. That group sends a phone bleep to hundreds of people, with every text and it is hard to manage. Such discussions are better suited to newsgroups (forums/fora) where they can be ignored or where they can ramble on harmlessly for weeks, as people wish. I posted this here as a better place to discuss it than on the whatsapp. There has already been a very rancourous exchange on the rare birds forum on birdforum, so we prob dont need another fight but you can ignore this thread if you wish.
The subjects are already well discussed on here as you stated under 2 or 3 different threads so why start another one? Nonsensical to me, can understand Paul's exasperation. May I respectfully suggest you ask the mods to delete it, obviously your prerogative.