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Two Warblers, Armenia (1 Viewer)

punkskaphil

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Here are two warblers that the group I was with were unsure of, both in the Yeghegnadzor area of Armenia last week. The first four images are of the same individual, the last two of a different individual at another location nearby. The question was whether they could be Eastern Olivaceous or Upcher's Warblers (or anything else). Thanks in advance for any help.
 

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Images #5 and #6 look to be grey upperparts rather than brown on my monitor; also a suggestion of a paler wing panel which rules out EOW in my books. Doesn't seem "beefy" enough from my recollection of OTW which also never sang from atop a shrub but deep within the tree's structure.
 
Images #5 and #6 look to be grey upperparts rather than brown on my monitor; also a suggestion of a paler wing panel which rules out EOW in my books. Doesn't seem "beefy" enough from my recollection of OTW which also never sang from atop a shrub but deep within the tree's structure.
The light often plays tricks, according to Collins, EOW can show white tips to the secondaries, whether that extends to the edges I can’t say, however with that pp projection there’s no other Iduna (which this is) with a barely 3/4 pp of overlying tertials that I’m aware of?

Should have added that the last two shots are superb.👍

Cheers
 
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Within the ambient lighting the cosmetics look better for Upcher’s than EOW, however I’m having a problem reconciling the pp to tertial length, the subject bird has pp just half the length of the overlying tertials, somewhat short of the UW’s 3/4?
 
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