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Message: <blockquote data-quote="iveljay" data-source="post: 3252051" data-attributes="member: 37260">I need to tour the junk shops again. Just taken delivery of a new 8x30 with its stupid bag. The binoculars were just stunning - grey overcast and drizzle - immediate crisp image, definitely has the zing factor. Some of my porros have thick extendable eye cups that do not fit my deeply set eye sockets (I have built in lens hoods!), but these seem pefect. The stiffer focussing is about the same as another waterproof porro I use so it is not a problem.My plan was to use a Jenoptem case for them, however they are not a comfortable fit with the rainguard and the Swaro neck strap - so its back to the junk shops.Anyway this unrepresentative Birder will be out with representative birders tommorrow seeing how they work in the real world. Main reason for purchase - they are meant to be tougher than my EIIs and not so boring, view wise, as my day to day roofs. In addition I can hold them steadier than the roofs (and for that matter the 8x EII ).With the more rigid IF focussing of the military bins tried by Rathaus it should be possible to extract the maximum performance from a really good pair of eyepieces, perhaps Swarovski select the really best for these bins.</blockquote>