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WaldgeistDDN

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Subject: Unidentified Bird Sighting in Baden-WĆ¼rttemberg (approx. 10-15 years ago)

Hello fellow bird enthusiasts,

I have a memorable sighting from my childhood that Iā€™ve always wondered about, and Iā€™m hoping someone here can help identify the species. Here are the details:

Location: Baden-WĆ¼rttemberg, Germany (approximately 10-15 years ago)

Size: The bird was about 40-45 cm tall (from foot to head), which is considerably larger than a typical pigeon or dove.

Appearance:

The bird resembled a pigeon or dove in body shape but was significantly larger.

Its plumage was predominantly gray, similar to the common wood pigeon (Columba palumbus) or the rock pigeon (Columba livia).

The most striking feature was its red head, which was visibly different from the body. The head also appeared to have reddish-brown feathers.

The bird also had red eyes, adding to its unusual appearance.


Behavior: It flew over us first, and its wingspan felt impressive, almost like a raptor (perhaps an eagle or a large hawk). However, it landed on the asphalt, where it moved in a manner similar to pigeons (walking rather than hopping).

Time of Year: I believe this occurred during a warm period, possibly during the late spring or summer, which could indicate it was a migratory bird or even an occasional visitor outside its typical range.


Possible Characteristics:

Large size, roughly the size of a pigeon but with a strikingly red head and eyes.

Grayish body, similar to a Hohltaube (Stock Dove) or similar pigeon species.

Behavior similar to a pigeon or dove, but much larger.


Questions:

Does anyone recognize a bird species that fits this description, especially with the red head and red eyes?

Could this have been a migratory bird or an irrational visitor (rare sighting from an exotic species)?

Is it possible that this bird could be an escaped exotic species or a rare hybrid?

Could it be a bird species previously sighted in this region but no longer commonly observed?


Iā€™m very curious to know more about this bird, especially if it could be a rare or migratory species that was simply passing through the area. Any help or suggestions on where to look next would be greatly appreciated!
 
But this wouldn't explain the Size? Or do u have a Mutation in mind?
Well, I'm perhaps slightly confused by the apparent size.

At one point you say the bird was:
"... significantly larger (than a pigeon/dove)..."

But you then go on to say:
"... roughly the size of a pigeon... "

So, was it larger than a pigeon/dove or was it roughly the same size as a pigeon? If larger, do you mean longer, chunkier, taller or something else?
 
Hi Waldgeist and a warm welcome to you from all the Staff and Moderators. Sorry, I can't help much with your conumdrum, but I would advise not getting too hung up on the size. Even the most experienced of birders can get that wrong (by quite a margin) depending on conditions. I wonder if it was an escaped pet or (fancy pigeon as they're often referred to over here), they can often come in all sorts of colour variations, and sizes I guess too.

I'm sure you will enjoy it here and I look forward to hearing your news.
 
Sorry for the late response.

That cause my English isn't the Best and I used Chat GPT for Help explaining it in the best possible way.

But ist war 30-50cm big. In this size range.
Well, I'm perhaps slightly confused by the apparent size.

At one point you say the bird was:
"... significantly larger (than a pigeon/dove)..."

But you then go on to say:
"... roughly the size of a pigeon... "

So, was it larger than a pigeon/dove or was it roughly the same size as a pigeon? If larger, do you mean longer, chunkier, taller or something else?
 

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