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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jim M." data-source="post: 3514689" data-attributes="member: 60675">Well, I've been birding in NA for 50 years, and was keenly aware when "Duck Hawk" and the like were banished from the birding lexicon as not being environmentally correct.  So consider yourself now to have learned something new.  Happened in the early 70s IIRC.In any event, it's clear that NA birders are using the term "hawk" differently and some use it to exclude falcon.  I'll agree there is no uniform usage.  But to disprove what I am claiming, you'd have to show not only that you or some use it to exclude falcon, but that it is recognized as erroneous usage to include falcon.  This no one has yet provided convincing evidence for.  I've already provided some authoritative examples of books and the like that show it to be acceptable usage to include falcon.  And I've never seen any North Am. birder correct another on this score, on this forum or elsewhere.Anyway, probably not going to settle this here.  Consider this dead horse beaten.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>