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Message: <blockquote data-quote="brocknroller" data-source="post: 1760631" data-attributes="member: 665">Thanks for that advice, Ron, I won't! My philosophy is "Seeing is Believing". Learned that lesson the hard way, with a couple of misguided deep-pocket purchases.My crude estimation of how much pincushion a bin has is to center the view on a telephone pole and then slowly move off axis and see how far off center the pole starts to bend and how much it bends. If the pole starts doing the "Limbo Rock" not far off axis or looks like a sail at the edges, the pincushion is probably going to bother me. Another thing that "chucklehead" Ingraham reported about the Trinnies was a "hot spot" at the center. Not sure what he meant by that now. I will have to dig it out when I have the time. In any case, I hope to get my hands on a Trinny someday and find out for myself what the fuss is all about (or isn't). Not sure about the pincushion, but I think I might like the brick oven ergonomics -- lots of bridge to hold on to for the BiG handed vs. the two skinny telescopes stuck together Ultravid design. This is especially true of the Ultraslim BL, which reminds me of a poodle after its hair has been "groomed". Elegant looking, but if I held them in my hands, I'd probably be asking, Where's the beef? The Trinnies lack of shallow thumb groves might be a turnoff. The full sized LX/LXL had plenty of bridge and barrel to grab, but no way to support the bin from underneath except to use my thumb tips or fold my thumbs under the barrels, nether of which were comfortable. Yes, the Trinnies feel and weight inspire confidence, all right, particularly when confronted by a mugger! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Although the Trinnie has its detractors, what got me curious about them is the diehard loyalty they inspire (not to mention the French phrases <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. It reminds me a bit of SE devotees. Given the mass extinction of quality porros (except in Japan, apparently, and those few hard to find Austrian dinosaurs), I can understand why the SE would have such diehard fans, but for a roof w/out ED/HD/FL glass, w/out dielectric coatings, and w/out long ER, magnesium body, etc. to have such a following when there are ChinBin's with more advanced features makes me think they must be something really special. And the price on the used market is also appealing!</blockquote>

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