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Message: <blockquote data-quote="brocknroller" data-source="post: 1763275" data-attributes="member: 665">Thanks, Richard and Alex. I suspect it's that way with most "clubs". In my amateur astronomy club, for example, members range from novices to advanced amateurs who collaborate with professional astronomers on projects. A similar type of amateur-professional collaboration takes place btwn birders and ornithologists. I know that Cornell Lab works on certain studies with the help of amateurs such as determining migration patterns, as I found out after a crow with a Cornell tag showed up in my backyard one day!It was the juxtaposition of the words "ornithologists" and "club" that made me curious whether this nomenclature was due to the words being used differently in Ireland (as "chips" in England are "French Fries" to us Yanks) or if you were a professional ornithologist. Let us know how the trip turns out. I would avoid pelagic birding in the Loch Ness, from what I've read, "Nessie" gets frisky in the spring.  <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>