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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Paul Woolnough" data-source="post: 1769282" data-attributes="member: 75334">A most interesting threadBought a second hand pair of 8x42 trinovids BA some years back.  First top of the range bins for me.A weakness compared to Swarovski and Ultravids is the weight, notably when watching a bird in a tree for a period of time.  Slightly better lighting etc on the competitors.  Last but most important BA do not focus that close.  This unhelpful with butterflies but not an issue with birds.  (Mid price range bins often focus closest of all but are they as robust etc?)Am totally confident in the performance and ruggedness of my Trinnies.  You can bash then about such as when getting them in and out of the car.    Remain as good as when I bought them.I paid £450 for mine second hand.  Owner found them too heavy: bins in near mint condition.  To me the extra cost is to me too much.  You get what you pay for.  Am happy with what I have but am impressed with the newer top of the market bins whatever the make.The choice is yours...</blockquote>