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Message: <blockquote data-quote="stevetb" data-source="post: 1335704" data-attributes="member: 45611">Thought i'd update this thread, as i'm finally able to bring it to a close!! After trying it out for the day on saturday, I was impressed enough to buy it - a swaro AT80HD (older version) with a zoom and 30x. I was first impressed by the clarity of the image and how bright it was, allowing me to pick out a red breasted goose amongst a flock of canadas at reasonable distance. However, it sold itself when a few turnstones landed about 7 or 8 metres away - I zoomed into 60X and could see all the dried salt on their bills ! The quality at 60X held up at all distances, allowing me to pick out a GBB gull chasing a peregrine way out in the solent - which would have likely been black dots through my old scope. The brightness of the scope was tested well today when looking for hawfinches - it was nearing dusk and I could still use the zoom all the way up! Even just after sunset, 20X on the scope was sufficiently bright.  To sum up, the image is absolutely superb - better than anything else I was looking at, except maybe the ATS65 - and I doubt that's as bright. I'm told it's very good for dodgyscoping - I might have to get myself a good little p&s cam for xmas!</blockquote>