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upstarts1979

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Sorry John only seen Whoopers twice before so thought I'd head over there instead, am I forgiven? ;)

So according to my list Gert's Blackcap is the 100th species of the year to be recorded at upton (discounting the house martins and including sy's common sand)

Hi Tim
Interesting to know what they have so far at other sites such as Grimley, where Brian has seen 89 I think:t:
I think the extra coverage has added a few such as Nuthatch but coal tit hasn't been recorded as far as I know. House sparrow none, even things like kestrel are very un-common this year.
B :) john
 

Gertatron

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Hi Tim
Interesting to know what they have so far at other sites such as Grimley, where Brian has seen 89 I think:t:
I think the extra coverage has added a few such as Nuthatch but coal tit hasn't been recorded as far as I know. House sparrow none, even things like kestrel are very un-common this year.
B :) john

I have House Sparrow - seen by the Barns at the beginning of January! That's 101 presumably and another prize?!

BTW now on 83 with Blackcap today..
 

upstarts1979

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I have House Sparrow - seen by the Barns at the beginning of January! That's 101 presumably and another prize?!

BTW now on 83 with Blackcap today..


Gert
I thought Dave was going to be the one to beat, but you nipping in early mornings might be the one to watch.
Any thoughts on the all-dayer to spice it up a bit.
If we get the gas cooker for sarnies.
How about sending people out just before eating time (10am) to find 3 species or so and they cannot eat until they have done so, mind you we might get left with a lot of food. Especially as we normally see the majority of species by 9am.
We have somehow got to beat that record of 92 in a day.
We have extra support this year with Stuart Croft returning for a one off special appearance on May 1st.
Tim reminds me off Stu in his youth. :t:
 

Gertatron

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Gert
I thought Dave was going to be the one to beat, but you nipping in early mornings might be the one to watch.
Any thoughts on the all-dayer to spice it up a bit.
If we get the gas cooker for sarnies.
How about sending people out just before eating time (10am) to find 3 species or so and they cannot eat until they have done so, mind you we might get left with a lot of food. Especially as we normally see the majority of species by 9am.
We have somehow got to beat that record of 92 in a day.
We have extra support this year with Stuart Croft returning for a one off special appearance on May 1st.
Tim reminds me off Stu in his youth. :t:

I rekon a prize of some sort for the person that gets the say 30th, 50th, 60th, 70th etc species. We'd have to stay in touch and phone or text them into a 'List Manager' whose decision is final!
Prizes can be small and if we all put say a fiver in then it creates a fund for them.
 

Brian Stretch

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Hi Tim
Interesting to know what they have so far at other sites such as Grimley, where Brian has seen 89 I think:t:
I think the extra coverage has added a few such as Nuthatch but coal tit hasn't been recorded as far as I know. House sparrow none, even things like kestrel are very un-common this year.
B :) john


Hi John,

The Grimley year total is currently 99. The 10 I've missed so far are all pretty much guaranteed including the 3 commoner owls but some like Lesser Redpoll and Siskin will probably have to wait until the autumn..........

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Woodchat

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I have House Sparrow - seen by the Barns at the beginning of January! That's 101 presumably and another prize?!

BTW now on 83 with Blackcap today..

You're a dark horse, Gert - waiting until now to declare the HS - that's a trump card by Upton standards. I bet you've got a Brambling up your sleeve too!;)
 

discors

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Went to Upton yesterday Thursday 25th Flashes disturbed by two Trust workers doing water survey. So only 2 avocets although some had apparently gone to flashes. One Blackheaded Gull didnt flush with the rest, looking dishevelled and excessively preenining, still oil about? We will have to see what the survey brings up from the Trust. Moors East hide 2 Little Egrets with the one Call Duck. Also 3 Redshank 3 Curlew and 4 Oystercatchers. North Moors hide no Bittern but did see a large Grass Snake swimming along the reed edge.
 

upstarts1979

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Water Levels at the Flashes

As spring progresses the hope of passage waders arriving is always at the forethought of many local birders. It is also the time of year when the perennial question of why is the water so high, is on many people’s lips.
I will try and explain the rationale as to why the water is kept higher than people would want or expect it to be.
Firstly the Flashes as a whole are very shallow and the only way of topping them up is by rain water although the water is shallow the mud is very thick and treacherous . As the water is highly saline, very little vegetation grows in or around the pools apart from a few salt tolerant species of plant. So a small drop in the water level can expose a surprisingly large expanse of mud. However a larger drop of the level does not mean that more mud would be exposed exponentially.
It is important that each time the water is dropped the exposed ‘wet’ muddy period is maximized for the feeding waders, very similar to how the ebbing tide in an estuary is utilised by waders only over a much longer time period. As the mud dries out the water is dropped again to expose new muddy areas. But when it rains the mud becomes wet and at this point it is as if the tide is coming in and the water level rises once again. This gives us a chance to repeat the whole procedure and prolongs the period of maximum wader feeding potential.
However if the water is dropped too low and no rain is available to replenish the level, problems occur. These include the mud baking rock hard and forming a salty crust devoid of life and making it impossible for burrowing invertebrates to emerge. If the water drops too much the ‘safety aspect’ for the birds of the breeding islands is compromised.
Due to the salinity of the water when the exposed mud dries it can bake as hard as concrete and even if rain occurs it just sits on top and will soon evaporate in hot conditions.
We have used the water level marker as a guide to what height the water should be relative to the time of year. It is not definitive and weather forecasts are integral to the success of the scheme.
Just to reiterate spring levels are monitored to allow mud to be exposed for the short duration of wader passage. The exposed muddy conditions are then maintained to a level conducive to wader chick rearing. Finally if we got things right the protracted Autumn wader passage will see ideal conditions from August to October when the water level will be at its lowest and the threat of a complete ‘dry out’ will have diminished. The pool has dried out within the last 6 years and the knock on effect sees the following year’s food supply (of invertebrates) depleted and thus a poor show of waders. The name of the game is CAUTION

The photo show the effect of varying levels
1.2nd May 09 (water level = 0.5)
2. 27th June 09 (w/L = 0.42)
3. 11th August 09 (W/L = 0.42)
4. 19th September 09 (W/L = 0.35) on next page it didn't upload
5. water levels relative to the time of year - this was taken from the management manual of 1998 (SC/JTB)
B :)John
 

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upstarts1979

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here is the 4th photo 19th Sep 09

20 years ago this is how the Flashes would have looked in spring. However the land in the the central area ( mud in this photo) has sunk over the last few years, thus the appearance of higher water levels. To compensate for this we have built many small and medium sized islands in this area to attract passage and breeding waders.
 

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Pam Dragon

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I had a nice morning at Upton today. On the flashes were Redshanks, Little Ringed Plovers & Avocets among others. Not too many birds around the feeders at the flashes, Bullfinch, Tits & Reed Buntings. On the Moors Little Egrets were hanging in the strong wind infront of the East hide-wonderful! Snipe, Shovelers, Shelduck, Oystercatchers, Herons, Little Grebe were amongst the birds. A Mink was also spotted being mobbed by the gulls.

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upstarts1979

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I had a nice morning at Upton today. On the flashes were Redshanks, Little Ringed Plovers & Avocets among others. Not too many birds around the feeders at the flashes, Bullfinch, Tits & Reed Buntings. On the Moors Little Egrets were hanging in the strong wind infront of the East hide-wonderful! Snipe, Shovelers, Shelduck, Oystercatchers, Herons, Little Grebe were amongst the birds. A Mink was also spotted being mobbed by the gulls.

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Hi Pam nice action shot of the egret (there were 3 this morning)
Where was the mink? so I can pass the information on to the relevant contacts.
cheers John
 

Pam Dragon

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John, if your looking out of the East hide he came from the far left, swam & ran across the islands & went into the reeds to the right of the hide. Stuart & others were there & saw him as well.
 

warrener

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Hi Pam nice action shot of the egret (there were 3 this morning)
Where was the mink? so I can pass the information on to the relevant contacts.
cheers John

Hi John, Gordon was there when the mink appeared so he is fully aware of the situation.

Stuart
 

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Gertatron

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I had a nice morning at Upton today. On the flashes were Redshanks, Little Ringed Plovers & Avocets among others. Not too many birds around the feeders at the flashes, Bullfinch, Tits & Reed Buntings. On the Moors Little Egrets were hanging in the strong wind infront of the East hide-wonderful! Snipe, Shovelers, Shelduck, Oystercatchers, Herons, Little Grebe were amongst the birds. A Mink was also spotted being mobbed by the gulls.

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Nice picture of the Egret Pam - looks like its hovering!
 

Gertatron

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here is the 4th photo 19th Sep 09

20 years ago this is how the Flashes would have looked in spring. However the land in the the central area ( mud in this photo) has sunk over the last few years, thus the appearance of higher water levels. To compensate for this we have built many small and medium sized islands in this area to attract passage and breeding waders.

Look at those islands! Great info John - thanks:t:
 

Pam Dragon

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Thanks Woodchat & Gert & John for the comments on my Egret photo. It was lovely to see, the wind was so strong! Lucky shot I assure you :-O
 

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