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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scrogdog" data-source="post: 1198048" data-attributes="member: 63280">Chris and Alex, after going back and checking my field guide, I remember now how much trouble I initially had in determining that my birds were Phoebes rather than any of the other flycatchers when they first started nesting under my porch each Spring about five years ago. I think the factors that made me finally decide they were Phoebes was their nest building under my porch eave and the pumping of their tails when perched, traits which the other flycatchers didn't seem to have based on my field guide. As stated previously, my knowledge of birds doesn't begin to compare to yours. As I look again, I agree the bird in question isn't a Phoebe. The birds I posted were last years second hatch which flew from the nest in mid-June. I missed getting a picture of this years first group of hatchlings, but my adults have already layed eggs and started on the second group, so hope to get pictures of them in June. Gary</blockquote>