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<blockquote data-quote="fmhill" data-source="post: 1834411" data-attributes="member: 86560"><p>jg,</p><p></p><p>Seeing that you've not received a reply, let me see if I can help. I'm new at nature sound recording, I'm just getting started myself however I have a lifetime career behind me in underwater accoustics as an equipment designer to lean on for sound equipment experience. I say that first to caution you that what I say is not to be taken as from someone with a lot of experience with these new microphones and little digital recorders as used for nature sound recording today. </p><p></p><p>In the process of deciding what I was going to use, I received what I consider to be some very good advise and answers to my questions. This information is what I intend to share with you... </p><p></p><p>First, a web site link that I found to be right on target about hooking up shotgun microphones to the type of digital recorder we are using. In my case its the Olympus LS-11 however the basic concept is not much different than the Sony PCM-M10 which was my other choice.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.avisoft.com/tutorial_mic_recorder_connection.htm" target="_blank">http://www.avisoft.com/tutorial_mic_recorder_connection.htm</a></p><p></p><p>I also looked at the AT shotgun microphones, in particular the AT-897 however I heard from several people that the AT-897 has low sensitivity and instead I have decided to go with the Sennheiser ME66 / K6 shotgun microphone which I'm now waiting to arrive. </p><p></p><p>Here is a quote from Paul Jacobson sent to me on another forum:</p><p></p><p>"The LS-10's lack of XLR input and phantom power limits your choices unless you add a phantom power supply to your kit. I feel this defeats the point of having a small handheld recorder, and you are best to stick to PIP or a shotgun that will run from an internal AA cell. Within these constraints the K6/ME66 is your best choice, as it has a winning combination of low noise and high sensitivity. Alternatives like the AT897 or NTG-1are ok but suffer in comparison with the ME66 due to relatively high self-noise and low sensitivity. When I first started recording I used an AT897 with a Sony minidisc recorder but if you have the available funds the K6/Me66 is a better choice."</p><p></p><p>(The LS-10 Paul refers to is the prior model Olympus recorder very similar to the LS-11 and the Sony PCM-M10)</p><p></p><p>However for all this I have heard recordings made by others with the AT-897 on older different type recorders that sounded very good. It may well be that there is a poor impedance match between the AT-897 and the new digital recorders but I'm guessing, I've not had a need to explore that...</p><p></p><p>Another person who influenced my thinking about the Sennheiser ME 66 / K6 vs the AT-897 is a person who uses a ME 66/K6 with a Olympus LS-10 and raved about it... </p><p></p><p>The most important item in this discussion is the link above to microphone connections, take all the rest with a grain of salt... </p><p></p><p>Hope this is a bit of help... </p><p></p><p>Good Luck... </p><p>Mitch...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fmhill, post: 1834411, member: 86560"] jg, Seeing that you've not received a reply, let me see if I can help. I'm new at nature sound recording, I'm just getting started myself however I have a lifetime career behind me in underwater accoustics as an equipment designer to lean on for sound equipment experience. I say that first to caution you that what I say is not to be taken as from someone with a lot of experience with these new microphones and little digital recorders as used for nature sound recording today. In the process of deciding what I was going to use, I received what I consider to be some very good advise and answers to my questions. This information is what I intend to share with you... First, a web site link that I found to be right on target about hooking up shotgun microphones to the type of digital recorder we are using. In my case its the Olympus LS-11 however the basic concept is not much different than the Sony PCM-M10 which was my other choice. [url]http://www.avisoft.com/tutorial_mic_recorder_connection.htm[/url] I also looked at the AT shotgun microphones, in particular the AT-897 however I heard from several people that the AT-897 has low sensitivity and instead I have decided to go with the Sennheiser ME66 / K6 shotgun microphone which I'm now waiting to arrive. Here is a quote from Paul Jacobson sent to me on another forum: "The LS-10's lack of XLR input and phantom power limits your choices unless you add a phantom power supply to your kit. I feel this defeats the point of having a small handheld recorder, and you are best to stick to PIP or a shotgun that will run from an internal AA cell. Within these constraints the K6/ME66 is your best choice, as it has a winning combination of low noise and high sensitivity. Alternatives like the AT897 or NTG-1are ok but suffer in comparison with the ME66 due to relatively high self-noise and low sensitivity. When I first started recording I used an AT897 with a Sony minidisc recorder but if you have the available funds the K6/Me66 is a better choice." (The LS-10 Paul refers to is the prior model Olympus recorder very similar to the LS-11 and the Sony PCM-M10) However for all this I have heard recordings made by others with the AT-897 on older different type recorders that sounded very good. It may well be that there is a poor impedance match between the AT-897 and the new digital recorders but I'm guessing, I've not had a need to explore that... Another person who influenced my thinking about the Sennheiser ME 66 / K6 vs the AT-897 is a person who uses a ME 66/K6 with a Olympus LS-10 and raved about it... The most important item in this discussion is the link above to microphone connections, take all the rest with a grain of salt... Hope this is a bit of help... Good Luck... Mitch... [/QUOTE]
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