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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Roy C" data-source="post: 1405141" data-attributes="member: 18798">John,  Manual is worth it to me regardless of whether it is good bad or indifferent light - the whole point to manual is that you do not have to guess EV comp to get a bird exposed correctly.Just try shooting a dark bird (that is small in the frame) in a bright sky and see what you get e.g. a dark blob - in AV mode you would have to guess some EV comp but using manual you just point and shoot.I use Manual just about all the time and find it much easier to get correct exposure. Tim was just trying to explain what the advantages of manual were and the fact that it was captive birds is irrelevant, he could just as easily used  cars to illustrate the point.</blockquote>