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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ravis" data-source="post: 3620834" data-attributes="member: 143866">I saw on another thread, where you yourself commented David, descriptions of the Hawke Sapphire ED 8x25 and was concerned about the focuser which can be problematic. I also wonder how the hinge holds up over time too. The alternative to these £180 bins is the £500 Swarovski CL 8X25. I can't be spending too much because of my interest in other bins.That page actually mentioned that the Sapphires resemble the Swarovskis and I think the whole line does. Copying Western design is a big thing, but Hawke is a British company. Although it happens in Europe too I guess. For anyone with enough money, the Swarovskis are the better option.</blockquote>