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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ravis" data-source="post: 3647919" data-attributes="member: 143866">Sorry, I can see all the previous comments now. I still didn't get much info on the 10x ones, but the 8x info is a reasonable indication. I have been using Zeiss Conquest 8x32s, so i've not been suffering so much <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Ray Mear actually recommends the Zeiss Victory's for the 8x32s for those that can afford them. They are reasonably compact. I am yet to find a place that will demo the ED IV, ED Pro and Sapphire for both the 8x and 10x. I will need to do that now. The RSPB don't do Hawke etc. Their demo range is good tho. I will need a 10x soon tho, currently using mediocre porros. 8x42s are supposed to be brighter than 8x32s, but wondering if Hawke's 8x43 Sapphires will be worth getting if I have the 8x32 Conquests?</blockquote>