Well I guess I got to answer my own thread. I was just at Hato Pinero. First time I've returned to the country since birding there a few years back and since the ranch was taken over. Venezuela has really taken a dive since I used to travel there frequently so I was happy to see Hato Pinero looks the same as ever if touched by drouth. Lots of yellow knobbed curassows and the usual wildlife with caimans ocelots and such. The guides and farmhands there were cheerful as ever but very concerned about the future, not knowing what the government will do with the ranch. They are afraid that usually the government takes over businesses sells the capital and then they close down and many ranches they know have already gone that way. All they know for certain is Hato Pinero is going to be turned over to growing crops but noone said what will happen to the workers or the tour business. There were lots of government people and military types around the main property and out on some of the dirt roads but they avoided talking with us. When cornered one of them did explain that the ranch will be run as a socialist government farm for growing basic foods like rice bananas coffee beans and corn the same as in Hato Cedral and Hato Frio. It sounded as if some of the pools will maybe be drained for irrigation and forest felled to make furniture and for agriculture. Another guy in a Joseph Stalin T shirt said that the tourist camp is going to be a socialist education unit for poor farmers. I told them about it being a world class area for the wildlife and maybe a biosphere park but they just laughed and said the wildlife would be "exploited for the people" too. They said that there is enough bushmeat to feed a city. Wow! I guess I'm just glad to have had the privelege to experience it.