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Victory FL discontinued? (2 Viewers)

adhoc

Well-known member
End of an era? The Zeiss website has removed the Victory FL section. (Did it last have only the 8x and 10x 32s?) The sections now are: (Victory) SF, (Victory) HT, Conquest, Victory Pocket and Terra.
 

AlphaFan

Well-known member
United States
The FL 32s were very much the opposite of today’s mid-sized alphas - very light and compact while still offering an exceptionally bright and crisp view. Too bad they are now orphans - but if there were a binocular hall-of-fame they would certainly be on the ballot.

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NDhunter

Experienced observer
United States
I think we all should appreciate Zeiss, they keep developing better models. That is how things are done with every business.
The Victory FL was pretty good, and the new ones are even better.
Jerry
 

Sebzwo

Well-known member
While doing very well functionally being both light weight and long lasting the "plastic" case was not received well with all premium customers. The FL was some good old school model still being made in Germany. Unfortunately for me but proving their value they were still pricey until the finale.

PS: Indeed I had meant to say "body" instead of case.
 
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Patudo

Well-known member
End of an era indeed, just like the Dialyt era and the era of the Oberkochen porros before that all had to end.

They will be remembered well though, they got a lot of things right. I expect to be using my 8x42 and probably my 8x32 for a good long time to come. But if anyone likes them so much that they're willing to trade their SF, please contact me... 😸
 

PYRTLE

Old Berkshire Boy
While doing very well functionally being both light weight and long lasting the "plastic" case was not received well with all premium customers.
"Cordura" was the material when I obtained a pair. I think the carrying case is practically far better than say the one "clam" monstrosity offered with the SFs. But then only use it when travelling.
 

james holdsworth

Consulting Biologist
While doing very well functionally being both light weight and long lasting the "plastic" case was not received well with all premium customers. The FL was some good old school model still being made in Germany. Unfortunately for me but proving their value they were still pricey until the finale.
Case meaning casing I’d assume…and I’d opine most buyers wouldn’t have a clue as to the construction…and if they did I’m sure glass fibre reinforced polymer would be well received as it sounds suitably exotic for a pricey item..rather than boring old metals lol.
 

jafritten

Well-known member
These are some great binoculars! I was going to sell mine to fund a pair of 10x42s. Also, I have the habit of selling something old when I buy something new. For some reason, I don't want to have too much gear.

I'm glad I didn't sell them. Their optical quality is surely undisputed. I also think they are exceptionally well balanced. I understand that many customers, birders in particular, want some improvements over Zeiss' very traditional take. I'm not really a birder; I just love viewing nature through binoculars. So, there is no need for me for the modern double hinge design, a flat field sharp right out to the edge or a wider FOV. In fact, the way I use my binoculars, I hardly ever notice soft edges.

Apart from the exterior design which I admittedly don't really like there's not much to moan about. The colour balance perhaps. I just like Leica colours better. For me, there's a bit too much green in the greens (I know, an odd thing to say) and in the blues. That said, I love their rendition of whites. That's a clear plus over most other binoculars. In winter they are unrivalled.

When I decided to put them up for sale, I noticed two tiny scratches on one eyepiece. I said to my wife that that would put potential buyers off. She said: Keep them - they want to stay with you. Now, I'm actually quite happy about those scratches... Still, I'd like to change one thing about them: I wish they were 7x.
 

SeldomPerched

Well-known member
These are some great binoculars! I was going to sell mine to fund a pair of 10x42s. Also, I have the habit of selling something old when I buy something new. For some reason, I don't want to have too much gear.

I'm glad I didn't sell them. Their optical quality is surely undisputed. I also think they are exceptionally well balanced. I understand that many customers, birders in particular, want some improvements over Zeiss' very traditional take. I'm not really a birder; I just love viewing nature through binoculars. So, there is no need for me for the modern double hinge design, a flat field sharp right out to the edge or a wider FOV. In fact, the way I use my binoculars, I hardly ever notice soft edges.

Apart from the exterior design which I admittedly don't really like there's not much to moan about. The colour balance perhaps. I just like Leica colours better. For me, there's a bit too much green in the greens (I know, an odd thing to say) and in the blues. That said, I love their rendition of whites. That's a clear plus over most other binoculars. In winter they are unrivalled.

When I decided to put them up for sale, I noticed two tiny scratches on one eyepiece. I said to my wife that that would put potential buyers off. She said: Keep them - they want to stay with you. Now, I'm actually quite happy about those scratches... Still, I'd like to change one thing about them: I wish they were 7x.
I feel the same as you do about FLs in almost every way. I sold my 56s which I should never have bought in the first place but enjoy the 8x32 and 7x42 very much for nature viewing. I actually think the exterior design looks very good too. I do have reservations about the over-greenness but in action it doesn't bother me once I have something interesting to follow.

A final thought: I like the fact that the top makers each put in a different colour signature. The variety appeals as my nature interest is more casual than specialist so absolute consistency of colour doesn't matter to me.

About having too much gear, I also feel the same! Sometimes it does lead me to get something new and soon after to wish I had done nothing and still had the item I traded in. However I feel much happier in recent months since parting with several items and just keeping a select handful.

Tom
 

yarrellii

Well-known member
Supporter
There's something about the FL series. The mix of outstanding optical performance and utilitarian and understated looks makes for an incredible package, in my opinion. It somehow reminds me of those "boring" (I love them!) Swedish sleeper cars that back in the day could match the performance of some pure breed sport cars. From the dozens of binoculars I've bought over the last 5 years, the FL series is the one I've consistently bought over an over again, more than any other series from any manufacturer, both the small x32 and the bulkier x42. And then, there's a special place in my heart for the FL 7x42, I think it's the binoculars that have given me a greater pleasure when using them, something that I find utterly difficult to convey into words. Yes, the image is far from flat and there are some niggles, but the view is just sensational, like having superpower in your eyes, the one of making the world look more beautiful and sharp than it is. So much so... that I've bought it 3 times :D :D :D I've sold it twice (I know, I know), I hope this 3rd time is the last one.
I think the FL series is already a modern classic, somehow like Leica's BA/BN.
 

Rg548

Well-known member
United Kingdom
Intersting comments about the finish on these....
I think that the re-inforced glass fibre body, and quality armour gives the FL's a real top line feel. They are superb to handle, in my opinion. The fit and finish is second to none, including lens protection. I have no issues whatsoever with the 'plastic' body.... because it isn't. It feels very premium to me.
My mate, who has the conquest, also thinks they feel great, especially the pronounced ribs on the barrels.
FL's are an outstanding optical instrument, if a little heavy, (8x56), but that has as many advantages as disadvantages in my experience.
 

b-lilja

Well-known member
Just used my green 8x42s today...terrific old schoolish view - all about the glass, no coating-driven optics bling - just dead clear resolution...that Parasitic Jaeger sure looked great...
 

SeldomPerched

Well-known member
Hello,

Fifteen years of happy use of my 8x32FL and sixteen years of use of my 10x32FL. The latter was the only one of three 10x which worked for me.

Stay safe,
Arthur
Hello Arthur, I know what you mean. You haven't tried the SLC 10x42 by any chance? The one reviewed by Roger Vine in scopeviews? I find that one light, quite easy to hold steady and very compact for a 42 plus with a very fine view - pincushion and sharp and clear most of the way to the edges in my use.

All the best,

Tom
 

AlphaFan

Well-known member
United States
+1 on both the FL 8x32 and SLC 10x42. They are that same formula of exceptionally detailed yet easy view, combined with a compact form and splendid handling. Using either often invokes a spontaneous warm, contented smile.
 
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jafritten

Well-known member
Is eye placement finicky?
Not for me. Unlike other binoculars like the above mentioned SLC or Ultravids, however, the FL 8x32 wants its eyecups pressed into the eye sockets, which I find rather comfy. No problems with vignetting or anything.
 
ZEISS. Discover the fascinating world of birds, and win a birding trip to Columbia
ZEISS. Discover the fascinating world of birds, and win a birding trip to Colombia
ZEISS. Discover the fascinating world of birds, and win a birding trip to Colombia

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