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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fazalmajid" data-source="post: 3611042" data-attributes="member: 134771">I haven't tried either the 10x25 you mention, but I would expect the Leica 10x25 to be even more finicky about eye placement than the 8x20, whereas the Zeiss 8x25 is as easy to use as the Leica 8x32, no dount thanks to the eye relief. If you want 10x, the Victory Pocket is also available in that magnification.Indoors at night when I compared them, at close to the minimum focus distance. It is only to be expected, a 32mm objective has 60% more surface than a 25mm, or 2/3 of a stop. Even if we assume the Zeiss uses Schott HT glass for the non-FL elements vs. the older glass in the UV HD non-Plus, it's a steep handicap to overcome. That said, if this were a concern on an outing, I'd bring a 8x42 along instead.The Zeiss 8x25 is surprisingly thick because of the single-hinge design. It fits (barely) in my jacket pocket. I would expect it to fit perfectly in a Billingham AVEA pouch, and I am debating using a detachable wrist strap instead of a neck strap, or badgering Leica to get me replacements of the excellent (light and compact, yet with quick-detach connectors) strap that shipped with the Trinovid 8x25 BC. Another option would be the Peak Designs Leash strap.</blockquote>