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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Troubador" data-source="post: 3257825" data-attributes="member: 109211">I don't want to shove any problems under the carpet Dennis, but I differ from you in what I regard as a problem. Certainly I don't regard the trivial examples that you are stringing together as 'problems' with the SF model. Particles inside the barrels? Find me a brand or model that hasn't had this. Brown finger marks on three pairs of bins due to causes unknown? Some marks inside the barrels that haven't caused a problem but, well, you think are problematic for some reason? And now, condensation on the outside of a lens indicates a deep-rooted problem: for Pete's sake!I don't wish to minimise the disappointment of anyone who finds particles inside their bins and feel they need to return them for this or other reasons, but this is not some indicator of a syndrome of problems.SF isn't perfect and I have said so in my test. HN feels satisfied with the eyecups but I feel that while they do the job they are not up to the standard I feel appropriate to SF's asking price, and I have informed Zeiss of my opinion.It is a dead give-away as to your motivations that you describe these few issues as MANY and down-play the many endorsements that I quoted. It is also instructive that you don't find the many reports of veiling glare/rubbish focusers/rolling ball/false pupils levelled at EL as at all constituting a 'problem'. Actually I don't either but thats because I don't jump to childish conclusions.Here is what it boils down to. You are terrified that SF is better than EL because as you said a couple of years ago, you hate owning a loser, so you are desperate to string together any criticism that comes SF's way.Lee</blockquote>

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