Warbler ID - Corpus Christi TX. (1 Viewer)

[rubonix]

Shot a short long distance vid of the warbler on 1 May in Corpus Christi, Tx. in the early morning from inside the house. Would like help on ID. Thanks for your responses.

-r

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[Butty]

the warbler on 1 May in Corpus Christi, Tx

I don't understand. Have you already posted photos of this bird, or other info? It's helpful to have the link, as I can't find any other posting.
This looks like either orange-crowned warbler (especially the head-pattern) or Tennessee warbler (maybe better for the underparts). It would be helpful to see the wing-pattern and the undertail-coverts. Do you have other photos/vids?

 

[Microtus]

I think that it's a Tennessee Warbler

 

[Butty]

I think that it's a Tennessee Warbler

My first thought - but can Tennessee warbler have a supercilium as near-zero as this?

 

[qwerty5]

My first thought - but can Tennessee warbler have a supercilium as near-zero as this?

The bill shape looks more like Orange-crowned to me

 

[Butty]

bill shape looks more like Orange-crowned

Is there a difference?

 

[qwerty5]

What's the difference?

Not much, but I think Orange-crowned is a bit more finely pointed. I just thought orange-crowned when i saw the bill. I could be wrong

 

[Microtus]

I looked at the video a second time, and the undertail coverts appear to be yellow. That feature should eliminate Tennessee. So I am thinking that it may be a rather light-colored (on the underparts) Orange-crowned?

 

[rubonix]

Sorry, I have not posted additional images/vids of this bird as this is all I have as I went through my cam today. My impression initially was Orange-crowned but I believe ebird said that would be rare as they should have all been gone from our area by then. So I balked. Tennessee is another thought I had with the grayish head and yellow greenish coloration, but the supercilium, as mentioned, doesn't seem correct. On the breast there seems to be a bit of coloration - maybe reddish/orangish - but maybe the light or the camera or my brain is creating that artifact to me.

 

[qwerty5]

Sorry, I have not posted additional images/vids of this bird as this is all I have as I went through my cam today. My impression initially was Orange-crowned but I believe ebird said that would be rare as they should have all been gone from our area by then. So I balked. Tennessee is another thought I had with the grayish head and yellow greenish coloration, but the supercilium, as mentioned, doesn't seem correct. On the breast there seems to be a bit of coloration - maybe reddish/orangish - but maybe the light or the camera or my brain is creating that artifact to me.

Yes, I did think it might be late for a Orange-crowned in Texas. Did you get a good view of the undertail coverts? If they were yellow then it's an Orange-crowned. If white it's a Tennessee

 

[Butty]

the undertail coverts appear to be yellow

I've watched it several times for that point and not been able to see clearly at all. There seems to be a couple of possible brief flashes in which they seem to me to be (if anything) whitish - but I'm not convinced that the undertail-coverts (as distinct from the underside of the tail) come into view at all.

 

[qwerty5]

I've watched it several times for that point and not been able to see clearly at all. There seems to be a couple of possible brief flashes in which they seem to me to be (if anything) whitish - but I'm not convinced that the undertail-coverts (as distinct from the underside of the tail) come into view at all.

Yeah that's what I thought too

 

[Butty]

the bill isn't good for Tennessee

Why/how is this? The Warbler Guide doesn't mention bill at all as a distinguishing feature for these two species.

 

[qwerty5]

Why/how is this? The Warbler Guide doesn't mention bill at all as a distinguishing feature for these two species.

It may not be, I just thought Orange-crowned when I saw the bill

 

[Butty]

I was asking MIcrotus this time, as he also mentioned a bill difference!

 

[Butty]

I think I see white in the underside of the tail itself, which would make it Tennessee warbler - but, again, very difficult to tell exactly what you're seeing.

 

[Microtus]

I was asking MIcrotus this time, as he also mentioned a bill difference!

But I deleted that

 

[Microtus]

I've watched it several times for that point and not been able to see clearly at all. There seems to be a couple of possible brief flashes in which they seem to me to be (if anything) whitish - but I'm not convinced that the undertail-coverts (as distinct from the underside of the tail) come into view at all.

You may be right.

 

[Butty]

But I deleted that

Oh. That makes things confusing: people won't be continually reading back through the thread to see if others have edited their posts.

 

[qwerty5]

Here I see white that looks like the undertail coverts, but I'm not sure. What do you guys think?