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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stevie babe" data-source="post: 1595404" data-attributes="member: 6212">Have to agree and that unless governments tackle the problem properly climate change will go on. Yet the wind farms that are going up now (and I think i've said this before) will barely cover the power usage of homes being built now and not for the the homes, factories and offices already existing. What i do not understand is why builders of new property are not currently required, by law, to also install solar panels and heaters. If they were serious about halting the inexorable rise in CO2 this would be one small step. If they were also serious about it they would also have in place a plan and start date of countrywide road tolls and be enforcing car manufacturers to start putting serious plans in place to build vehicles that do not run on carbon based fuels. Therefore revenue lost from motor fuel will be recovered by road tolls.But that is only the start. Governments are only talking about reductions of CO2. It will still be rising relentlessly for many more years in this scenario - assuming that climate change is caused by CO2 and I believe it is. What nobody seems to be considering is the amount of captured methane NOW being released into the atmosphere and which is a much greater potential cause of global warming and this gas will increase as the world gets warmer.As for whether it is good for animals there are arguments each and everyway. Fortunately the UK has a nice mild climate and should still be relatively pleasant for many years to come even in a GW scenario. In fact we will probably benefit from more birds coming here and maybe stopping their migrations. admittedly we could also lose some as they stay further north as per the initial postings of this thread. Depends on if our summer visitors come to realise that as the Sahara gets bigger than it once was they start to stop short in southern Europe, hopefully not to face the gun and trapping.Anyhow, global warming, climate change, whatever! Until the human population stops growing and starts to shrink we will continue to add to these effects and generally continue to cause the deterioration of the natural enviroment. Those brent geese are probably better where they are, at least they will have less bother with humans than if they came south to UK.</blockquote>

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