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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dave Appleton" data-source="post: 3337012" data-attributes="member: 30282">For precisely the same reasons as I described above, you can at best describe this bird as resembling an African, unless you know its pedigree or breed it out.  As fugl pointed out several posts back, both Chinese Goose and African Goose are just breeders' names, and they are useful only in the context of aviculture, not in an uncontrolled wild setting such as this.  And in that setting you would use a specific relevant standard, of which there are several.  Your point about the European poultry standard may be correct for that standard, but in other standards it is as I said, for example the British Waterfowl Standards in which any hint of a dewlap is a disqualification for Chinese Goose, not merely a major defect.But the point that I'm  more interested in is your assertion that Anser cygnoides f. domestica is not Anser cygnoides.  Would you also assert that Anthus petrosus littoralis (Scandinavian Rock Pipit) is not an Anthus petrosus (Rock Pipit)?  Or that a Lycaena phlaeas f. caeruleopunctata (the form of Small Copper with blue spots) is not a Lycaena phlaeas (Small Copper)?</blockquote>