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Message: <blockquote data-quote="John M Robinson" data-source="post: 1648601" data-attributes="member: 61814">I agree with you Nick, they are all good, with optics close enough to have other factors tilt a decision one way or another. It would make sense that those of us who post on this site are way more obsessed with bins than even the very educated birder or hunter, and that we we naturally amplify small differences much the same way a hardcore wine connoisseur will expound dramatically between two very good vintages. Add each our our unique personalities to the mix and you might see a difference in how we describe very small differences in performance. Dennis who is very experienced and knowledgeable about optics sees it is a black and white, absolute win for the FL while 308 is equally convinced that the EL is the absolute best. Neither seems to accept the fact that others with equal credentials may honestly see it different. I scrupulously read every  possible review on all of the sights, but it ultimately came down to me actually looking through all of them, my eyes (20-15 vision), like the Leicas best, Swaro second and Zeiss last. That said all three are head and shoulder above all others except the Nikon SE which is my absolute favorite.John</blockquote>