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Message: <blockquote data-quote="redshank2" data-source="post: 1635309" data-attributes="member: 80551">Definately in my experience; worst Labrador moment was when birding on heathland near here:Black Lab came bounding up to me snapping and trying to put its paws up on my stomach. Tweedy bewellied owner approaching from a distance shouts at ME not dog "Tell him No he must learn" I yelled No at the beast whilst pushing its paws off me. It bounds up again and Mrs Wellies shouts at me again "No you need to say it more firmly" at this point I give dog another shove and shout back at her that she needs to control her animal not me.After a short 'discussion' on responsibilities for controlling dogs I finally managed to rid myself of the dog after giving it a surpeticious kick (don't like doing this but in this case since she wasn't calling it off and it wouldn't respond to me it seemed the only way). Mrs Wellies went off no doubt to moan to friends about the awful people one meets who don't understand dogs and I went off to wipe the mud from my binoculars and coat.Thankfuly I've never seen that woman or her dog again as not sure how polite I'd manage to be a second time!Tom</blockquote>