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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mannix" data-source="post: 1240018" data-attributes="member: 39854">Just one thing to start, I am not trying to stop people from keeping lists nor competing to see who is the best. I wish anyone who wants that all the very best. I personally though can't imagine being so competitive that I would rather be top of a list than enjoy birds and birding.When I say what I saw on my local patch, it's likely to be something quite common rather than a south african wobble toothed grinning bird. Yes I sometimes like to share my experiences and people are free to express their opinions about what I write, just as I did in this case. You seem to be acting like I am attacking you and I am not.I think you will find that we are not all competitive and I could not care less if people have seen more birds than me. I enjoy the outdoors and whatever is in it for myself and no one else. So to end and just to make it clear once more. I do not understand listing, I don't want to understand listing, I wish eveyone who does the best of luck with it and if I want to give my opinion to a debate about listing then I will, as as far as I am aware this is still a country where you can have your say.I have now said my piece and will as you instruct "move on" Thanks!</blockquote>