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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ColinD" data-source="post: 1240060" data-attributes="member: 55409">Who says that people who keep lists are more interested in being top than they are in birding? You're jumping to conclusions about listers.Of course you're free to express your opinions, but equally a lister is free to tell people about his / her list. It could be argued that the list is actually a lot more interesting than your experiences with common birds. I didn't mean we are all competitive birders, I meant in life in general we are all competative. Some people must have a bigger car or bigger house than their friends, others have to prove how good their kids are at sport etc. etc. Some birders have to prove that their way of birding is better than others, some birders like to show others what they have seen. Sorry, but we are all competitive in some way.Of course you're free to join in with a debate, I just don't understand why you would want to. There are plenty of forums, and many debates which I don't join in with because I'm not interested.Good.</blockquote>