What binoculars do you think have the most WOW factor! (1 Viewer)

[stephen b]

You should have told me how tight the focus was. That's deceptive selling. Those binoculars have the tightest focus I have ever experienced and if you were honest you would have at least said "Heh, Dennis the focus on these is pretty tight so I want you to be aware of that". Just being straightforward.

Hey- Troll, get your people you are insulting right; I NEVER told you anything, or sold you on anything about these Habicht binoculars.

I was not the Steve I think you were upset with ( I am only just one of the Steve's/ Stephens here). Seems like you have so many people that you insult, you can't keep them straight. Although I am not really sure why you are upset with him (the other Steve that you first thanked for mentioning the Habichts), nor Proud Papa who sold them to you. This is a free country, you do not have to jump off the bridge because someone tells you to. Be a man and stop trying to make others wrong for your actions. And just grow up.

You are imploding and have created so many enemies here, you can not even get it straight on where your bullets are flying.

BTW- Even though I am not one who ever said anything to you about the Habichts; I am just one of the ones who called you out for your immature behavior, and I stand by that. So if you have a beef with me about that- no problem, does not bother me; because I would say the same thing straight to your face.

 

[jan van daalen]

So is the argument justified that the Habicht is a bin for men???
Jan

 

[typo]

You should have told me how tight the focus was. That's deceptive selling. Those binoculars have the tightest focus I have ever experienced and if you were honest you would have at least said "Heh, Dennis the focus on these is pretty tight so I want you to be aware of that". Just being straightforward.

Seems you knew already.

Quote, Dennis July 7th:

"So how many people think the Swarovski 8x30 Habicht is better optically than the Nikon 8x32 SE? It sound like the short ER, small eyecups and stiff focus on the Habicht could be deal killers for alot of people."

http://www.birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=2483793&postcount=65

 

[mooreorless]

I had no idea they were THAT hard! They are twice as hard as the Sightron Blue Sky's and that is hard. I think you better stay out of this or you are going to ruin your reputation.

Dennis, You were mad and you should of stayed away from this site yesterday. Nobody made you buy this binocular that you didn't even give a chance. Nobody said the focuser was real easy to turn. Man up for heavens sake :smoke:

I think you better stay out of this or you are going to ruin your reputation.[/QUOTE] :eek!: :-O

 

[Sancho]

So is the argument justified that the Habicht is a bin for men???
Jan

I tried a pair in June in a store, and didn't find any problem with the focusser. And I'm a girly-man, I even have to ask my wife to open jars for me.

 

[ganymede]

I tried a pair in June in a store, and didn't find any problem with the focusser. And I'm a girly-man, I even have to ask my wife to open jars for me.

So, are you saying you didn't crack your nails and sprain your fingers trying to turn that focuser? ||

 

[ganymede]

Seems you knew already.

Quote, Dennis July 7th:

"So how many people think the Swarovski 8x30 Habicht is better optically than the Nikon 8x32 SE? It sound like the short ER, small eyecups and stiff focus on the Habicht could be deal killers for alot of people."

http://www.birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=2483793&postcount=65

Oh man! This is getting really good! Pop corns!

Here's another thread where Steve pointed out Dennis did a (yet another?) 180 on another bin, the ZR ED2

http://www.birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=2607241&postcount=13

 

[Sancho]

So, are you saying you didn't crack your nails and sprain your fingers trying to turn that focuser? ||

I faint if I crack my nails or cut my hair. And the Habicht didn't even make me tremble. I think Dennis needs to get down to the gym and let his fingers do the pumping.

 

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I faint if I crack my nails or cut my hair. And the Habicht didn't even make me tremble. I think Dennis needs to get down to the gym and let his fingers do the pumping.

Kind of what I was inferring when I mentioned my wife noticed the focus on the Habicht was stiffer than the focus on the EDG. Of course unlike Dennis she didn't complain about it and had no difficulty in turning the focus.....just noticed it was a little harder to turn.

Steve

 

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I tried a pair in June in a store, and didn't find any problem with the focusser. And I'm a girly-man, I even have to ask my wife to open jars for me.

I wonder then if my pair was an exception? I have heard alot of people say the focus is not too bad. Proud Papa were mine exceptionally hard or were they typical? Did you send me the ones with the tightest focus?

 

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I faint if I crack my nails or cut my hair. And the Habicht didn't even make me tremble. I think Dennis needs to get down to the gym and let his fingers do the pumping.

I do work out. I benchpress 200 pounds so I don't think that is the problem.

 

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I would only recommend Habicht's for Orangutans and Gorillas.

 

[OsageArcher]

Re Dennis: Don't you have to be at least 10 years old to have an unsupervised BF account?

 

[Troubador]

And another thing

Optical quality isn't the only thing to go WOW over when it comes to bins.

Some bins look totally desirable and others don't. Being an Oldy I have very fond memories of the elegance of Zeiss Dialyt 8x30s (or 8x20s or 10x40s) or Leitz Trinovid 8x40s from the 1960s and 1970s. I'm referring specifically to the leatherette covered versions rather than rubber armoured.

So how about an assessment of bins from the point of view of visual lust???

Lee

 

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Optical quality isn't the only thing to go WOW over when it comes to bins.

Some bins look totally desirable and others don't. Being an Oldy I have very fond memories of the elegance of Zeiss Dialyt 8x30s (or 8x20s or 10x40s) or Leitz Trinovid 8x40s from the 1960s and 1970s. I'm referring specifically to the leatherette covered versions rather than rubber armoured.

So how about an assessment of bins from the point of view of visual lust???

Lee

What makes me sick about the Habicht is optically it is great. I loved everything about it except the the tight focus. It is a beautifully made porro and it has great ergonomics and the small size is wonderful. The optics are fantastic. Optically it is as good as an SV. I really debated keeping it but every time I tried to focus it it pissed me off. For astronomy it would be great where you don't have to focus it much but for warblers and fast moving birds give me a break. It could be a perfect birding binocular if the focus was just a LITTLE less tight. It is waterproof and fogproof. I just wonder if my sample was typical or if all the focusers are that tight. Maybe it would loosen up with use. The only big issue with it is the focuser. I haven't given up on it. If Proud Papa had a sample that focused a little easier I would try it again. Maybe you could send it in to Swarovski and get the focuser lubricated. I would be willing to try it. It is just irritating the focus is so tight. If that is the price you have to pay for a waterproof porro I would just as soon have non-waterproof like the SE or EII.

 

[Troubador]

What makes me sick about the Habicht is optically it is great. I loved everything about it except the the tight focus. It is a beautifully made porro and it has great ergonomics and the small size is wonderful. The optics are fantastic. Optically it is as good as an SV. I really debated keeping it but every time I tried to focus it it pissed me off. For astronomy it would be great where you don't have to focus it much but for warblers and fast moving birds give me a break. It could be a perfect birding binocular if the focus was just a LITTLE less tight. It is waterproof and fogproof. I just wonder if my sample was typical or if all the focusers are that tight. Maybe it would loosen up with use. The only big issue with it is the focuser. I haven't given up on it. If Proud Papa had a sample that focused a little easier I would try it again. Maybe you could send it in to Swarovski and get the focuser lubricated. I would be willing to try it. It is just irritating the focus is so tight. If that is the price you have to pay for a waterproof porro I would just as soon have non-waterproof like the SE or EII.

Eerrrrr Dennis I said 'visual lust', can we have something related to visual lust please.

If you are not sure what visual lust is all about check out post 737 in the Here are the Victorys thread....

Lee

 

[etudiant]

I would only recommend Habicht's for Orangutans and Gorillas.

Make that water loving Orangutans and Gorillas.
After all, the Habicht water proofing measures are responsible for the stiff focus problem that has caused distress.

 

[stereotruckdriver]

What makes me sick about the Habicht is optically it is great. I loved everything about it except the the tight focus. It is a beautifully made porro and it has great ergonomics and the small size is wonderful. The optics are fantastic. Optically it is as good as an SV. I really debated keeping it but every time I tried to focus it it pissed me off. For astronomy it would be great where you don't have to focus it much but for warblers and fast moving birds give me a break. It could be a perfect birding binocular if the focus was just a LITTLE less tight. It is waterproof and fogproof. I just wonder if my sample was typical or if all the focusers are that tight. Maybe it would loosen up with use. The only big issue with it is the focuser. I haven't given up on it. If Proud Papa had a sample that focused a little easier I would try it again. Maybe you could send it in to Swarovski and get the focuser lubricated. I would be willing to try it. It is just irritating the focus is so tight. If that is the price you have to pay for a waterproof porro I would just as soon have non-waterproof like the SE or EII.

Back pedaling now??? I think you probably burned your bridges!!! Bryce...

 

[etudiant]

Optical quality isn't the only thing to go WOW over when it comes to bins.

Some bins look totally desirable and others don't. Being an Oldy I have very fond memories of the elegance of Zeiss Dialyt 8x30s (or 8x20s or 10x40s) or Leitz Trinovid 8x40s from the 1960s and 1970s. I'm referring specifically to the leatherette covered versions rather than rubber armoured.

So how about an assessment of bins from the point of view of visual lust???

Lee

Seems to be a close cousin to an earlier thread on binocular 'bling'.
Although there is a real difference between the ostrich leather Leica that was one featured item there and the restrained quality of the old Leitz Trinovids.

 

[proudpapa56]

Dennis, the most common request I get when folks order binoculars is to make sure the collimation is spot on so I do check every pair that goes out for that reason but also make sure everything else is doing what it's supposed to. The focus on yours was right where expected for that model.