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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WJC" data-source="post: 3671823" data-attributes="member: 25191">You will find Steiner's made in Germany; you will find them made in Asian countries. First, let me say they're NOT as tough as Steiner owners like to brag. But, as you have heard me harp, on binocular forums perception is reality ... to some people, at least. As far as the Navy's wimpy "drop test" goes, (performed in the early '90s) the GERMAN Steiners and Swarovskis were at the top. But, in a HOT environment the rubber swelled and bubbled fairly easily. So, what constitutes "tough"?My concern was deeper. The instrument the rep brought to show me was out of alignment so bad I could see around trees. But, because it was a Steiner, I was supposed to be impressed. As with MOST things, I found the name meant nothing; the PRODUCT meant everything. That's why I was saddened when their Zeiss-style NAVIGATOR was turned into one of those squatty things. That product-before the transformation-was a really a good performer. :cat:Bill</blockquote>