What is your favorite 10x? (1 Viewer)

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early 40's. I didn't necessarily mean brightness but rather useability. My Zeiss 10x42 can sometimes be too bright during the day, but that isn't necessarily helpful in all situations. At night I see a noticeable difference, esp. looking at stars. I find myself carrying those 10x32s most of the time during the day.

I understand too bright. Sometime I grab my Leica 8x32 BA on a bright sunny day because it is not as bright as my SV 8x32.

 

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My favorite 10x: SF 10x42. I have compared them with quite a few other 10x42 and 10x32 bins, and they have (to my eyes) the most relaxing view and best handling. However I do believe that right now Zeiss has QC issues with the SF---one of the SF examples that I tried had some kind of impurity on/in the focusing lenses that produced black dots near the edge of the field stop.

Peter.

"However I do believe that right now Zeiss has QC issues with the SF---one of the SF examples that I tried had some kind of impurity on/in the focusing lenses that produced black dots near the edge of the field stop."

Regardless of what the Zeiss supporters say there have been a lot of complaints on the new Zeiss SF. I wouldn't buy one now without physically inspecting it. When are these defects with the Zeiss SF going to end!

 

[ceasar]

"However I do believe that right now Zeiss has QC issues with the SF---one of the SF examples that I tried had some kind of impurity on/in the focusing lenses that produced black dots near the edge of the field stop."

Regardless of what the Zeiss supporters say there have been a lot of complaints on the new Zeiss SF. I wouldn't buy one now without physically inspecting it. When are these defects with the Zeiss SF going to end!

Pesto said that in post #78 above where he also said that the 10x42 SF was his favorite 10x42.

And this thread, which is your thread, is titled: "What is your favorite 10x?"

Which once more confirms that the readers on BF should very closely examine any statement you make about a binocular.

 

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Pesto said that in post #78 above where he also said that the 10x42 SF was his favorite 10x42.

And this thread, which is your thread, is titled: "What is your favorite 10x?"

Which once more confirms that the readers on BF should very closely examine any statement you make about a binocular.

HaHa. I knew the Zeiss lovers would come with that bait. You have been avoiding my thread. You know my threads are where the action is.

 

[Vespobuteo]

HaHa. I knew the Zeiss lovers would come with that bait. You have been avoiding my thread. You know my threads are where the action is.

haha,
or maybe more like that movie with Bill Murray,
"Groundhog Day":

"A weatherman finds himself living the same day over and over again."

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107048/

great movie!
o

but no need for SF bashing anymore,
the SF is the best one out there,
and you know it,
o

 

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Pesto said that in post #78 above where he also said that the 10x42 SF was his favorite 10x42.

And this thread, which is your thread, is titled: "What is your favorite 10x?"

Which once more confirms that the readers on BF should very closely examine any statement you make about a binocular.

I never said that the Zeiss SF was a bad binocular. I am sure it is excellent optically. In fact I would have purchased one until all the people started complaining about QA issues. I had my wallet open. What I will repeat is I think it is having some teething pains on this introductory model and I personally would be cautious about buying one at this point in time. Did the Zeiss fans hear me?

 

[ceasar]

HaHa. I knew the Zeiss lovers would come with that bait. You have been avoiding my thread. You know my threads are where the action is.

If you want to know why people are avoiding your threads look at this one.

There are 87 posts on it so far and 40 of them are your own; most of them little more than vapid comments. You have become boring and predictable.

 

[Maljunulo]

If you want to know why people are avoiding your threads look at this one.

There are 87 posts on it so far and 40 of them are your own; most of them little more than vapid comments. You have become boring and predictable.

vap·id
ˈvapəd/
adjective
offering nothing that is stimulating or challenging.
"tuneful but vapid musical comedies"
synonyms: insipid, uninspired, colorless, uninteresting, feeble, flat, dull, boring, tedious, tired, unexciting, uninspiring, unimaginative, uninvolving, lifeless, tame, vacuous, bland, trite, jejune

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[perterra]

vap·id
ˈvapəd/
adjective
offering nothing that is stimulating or challenging.
"tuneful but vapid musical comedies"
synonyms: insipid, uninspired, colorless, uninteresting, feeble, flat, dull, boring, tedious, tired, unexciting, uninspiring, unimaginative, uninvolving, lifeless, tame, vacuous, bland, trite, jejune

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:-O

 

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If you want to know why people are avoiding your threads look at this one.

There are 87 posts on it so far and 40 of them are your own; most of them little more than vapid comments. You have become boring and predictable.

The only people avoiding them are the Zeiss Fan Boys because they don't want to hear any criticism of their chosen binoculars. I have had some Zeiss. I had the Zeiss 8x32 FL, 8x42 FL, 8x56 FL, 8x32 Conquest HD, 8x20 Victory T and the Zeiss 8x20 Monocular. Very good binoculars optically but honestly I have to say they never measured up to Swarovski, as far as, build quality. They always seemed rough and unfinished compared to a Swaro. I guess you would have to say almost cheap in appearance for an such an expensive binocular. I have heard a few comments in that regard about the SF. I had the Zeiss first and then when I got my first Swaro I thought now THAT is quality. I guess that is why they sell so many more Swaro's in the marketplace. Really, I don't think Zeiss can compete especially in the high end binoculars. Our Cabella's don't even stock any Zeiss HT's of SF's or FL's so that tells you something. But that is just my opinion.

 

[perterra]

The only people avoiding them are the Zeiss Fan Boys because they don't want to hear any criticism of their chosen binoculars. I have had some Zeiss. I had the Zeiss 8x32 FL, 8x42 FL, 8x56 FL, 8x32 Conquest HD, 8x20 Victory T and the Zeiss 8x20 Monocular. Very good binoculars optically but honestly I have to say they never measured up to Swarovski, as far as, build quality. They always seemed rough and unfinished compared to a Swaro. I guess you would have to say almost cheap in appearance for an such an expensive binocular. I have heard a few comments in that regard about the SF. I had the Zeiss first and then when I got my first Swaro I thought now THAT is quality. I guess that is why they sell so many more Swaro's in the marketplace. Really, I don't think Zeiss can compete especially in the high end binoculars. Our Cabella's don't even stock any Zeiss HT's of SF's or FL's so that tells you something. But that is just my opinion.

Just wondering where you come up with your sales and marketing info on Swaro selling more?

 

[chill6x6]

Our Cabella's don't even stock any Zeiss HT's of SF's or FL's so that tells you something.

NAH… You can't really base anything in either direction with something like that. So many different peoples hands in so many pockets. Next week it could very well be they have the Zeiss products in stock.

Zeiss vs. Swarovski…. They are competitors…. Each does whatever they think it will take to get the market share. Each has their strengths and weaknesses which change with each new model. Ones choice comes down to ergonomics and personal preference in most cases.

 

[stephen b]

vapid- now that is a great adjective

:t:

 

[stephen b]

Regarding Cabelas and what they have in stock- they certainly stock mostly what sells.

I was talking with one of the optics sales people last week about them making their selection of binoculars smaller then what it used to be. I noticed that they pulled quite a few of the 8x power binoculars that they used to carry up until just recently- and that includes a Swaro model or two. I asked him about it, and he said- "Yeah, isn't that something; they told us to pull a number ( most) all the the 8x power binoculars from a number of makers from the display counter. Since they were hardly selling and all the hunters wanted the 10x and they sold the best, they pulled the 8x's."

I was surprised, and so was he. He said they go with what sells the most in different stores.

BTW- regarding Zeiss top models, the local Cabelas does not have even (1) HT or SF under the glass display of Zeiss models. And they do not have any in stock. Optics rep did not think they ever had even one in the display.

 

[perterra]

Regarding Cabelas and what they have in stock- they certainly stock mostly what sells.

I was talking with one of the optics sales people last week about them making their selection of binoculars smaller then what it used to be. I noticed that they pulled quite a few of the 8x power binoculars that they used to carry up until just recently- and that includes a Swaro model or two. I asked him about it, and he said- "Yeah, isn't that something; they told us to pull a number ( most) all the the 8x power binoculars from a number of makers from the display counter. Since they were hardly selling and all the hunters wanted the 10x and they sold the best, they pulled the 8x's."

I was surprised, and so was he. He said they go with what sells the most in different stores.

BTW- regarding Zeiss top models, the local Cabelas does not have even (1) HT or SF under the glass display of Zeiss models. And they do not have any in stock. Optics rep did not think they ever had even one in the display.

Probably regional, the one in Fort Worth had terras, conquest and HT's last time I was there. But I believe most are franchise locations.

 

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If you want to know why people are avoiding your threads look at this one.

There are 87 posts on it so far and 40 of them are your own; most of them little more than vapid comments. You have become boring and predictable.

" Vapid comments" You went over my head on that one. Was that a compliment? Does it mean my comments are right on the head?

" You have become boring and predictable" My wife says the same thing. Must be true!

" There are 87 posts on it so far and 40 of them are your own." 47 posts and I answered them all. What's the problem?


Over 2700 people have read the thread. Must be interesting to somebody. If you find it boring why are you reading it? There are other threads I am sure that are not as boring.

 

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NAH… You can't really base anything in either direction with something like that. So many different peoples hands in so many pockets. Next week it could very well be they have the Zeiss products in stock.

Zeiss vs. Swarovski…. They are competitors…. Each does whatever they think it will take to get the market share. Each has their strengths and weaknesses which change with each new model. Ones choice comes down to ergonomics and personal preference in most cases.

Cabella's simply sell more Swarovski's. As Stephen says they have more 10x than anything because that is what the hunters want. Lately I am liking 10x myself in the form of the Canon 10x42 IS-L.

 

[jgraider]

I was in the Ft Worth Cabelas this past weekend, and spent about an hour around the optics booth. Both Swaro and Vortex had a company rep there behind the booth, and both were very personable and knowledgeable guys. As far as the display is concerned, Nikon had way more space than anyone else, and Vortex, Leupold, and Swarovski had about half the room Nikon did, in spite of the fact that Vortex is by far the leading binocular sales brand in that store, and for Cabelas company wide. They both acknowledged that. Zeiss had slightly less space that Swaro, and Leica had one lonely binocular there, and ultravid hd. "Leica is pretty much a non factor in this store", is what I was told. Obviously the Cabelas HD Instinct (Meopta made) brand had plenty of space as well.

Swaro had every model SV made on display, as well as the new SLC, which is a fantastic glass.

As far as Dennis and his vapid comments, I had never heard of that word, but when I saw it mentioned by ceasar in this context, I thought it fit perfectly.

 

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I was in the Ft Worth Cabelas this past weekend, and spent about an hour around the optics booth. Both Swaro and Vortex had a company rep there behind the booth, and both were very personable and knowledgeable guys. As far as the display is concerned, Nikon had way more space than anyone else, and Vortex, Leupold, and Swarovski had about half the room Nikon did, in spite of the fact that Vortex is by far the leading binocular sales brand in that store, and for Cabelas company wide. They both acknowledged that. Zeiss had slightly less space that Swaro, and Leica had one lonely binocular there, and ultravid hd. "Leica is pretty much a non factor in this store", is what I was told. Obviously the Cabelas HD Instinct (Meopta made) brand had plenty of space as well.

Swaro had every model SV made on display, as well as the new SLC, which is a fantastic glass.

As far as Dennis and his vapid comments, I had never heard of that word, but when I saw it mentioned by ceasar in this context, I thought it fit perfectly.

If you feel compelled to post on my boring thread take your insults somewhere else. I have never seen a post of yours that was original or interesting to me either. It amazes me how people have the guts to criticize somebody elses thread but they have no initiative to start their own. Why don't you explain your comment? Don't you think it is rude to just interrupt somebodies thread that they took the effort to start and they are trying to answer questions and keep it gong by insulting them by saying it is boring. What does that accomplish? It adds nothing to the thread and it hurts my feelings. Start your own thread if you think it is boring. Don't come on here and ruin with mine your crap.

 

[perterra]

If you feel compelled to post on my boring thread take your insults somewhere else.

Maybe you should make your threads by invitation only, maybe an RSVP, then we can look at who is ccoming and decide if we want to show.


You bring this crap on yourself with the comments you make.