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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Adam M" data-source="post: 1833988" data-attributes="member: 63469">Saw one last summer in Norfolk, it was resting on my dads car tyre. Couldn't believe the size and colour of it. Even when we moved it in to a hedge, it fluttered back to the floor and crawled back on the tyre. Had to move it a fair distance away and make a quick get away so we didn't squash it. Hawk moths are brilliant, as are anything thats not the usual grey/brown stuff, just as it gets people interested. My dad was in awe of the peppered moth we had last week, some with the brimstone, not rare by any stretch of the imagination, but a little different.Just as an aside note to rarity, is it that there is actually really low numbers of these species, or just a lack of surveys/records? To me mothing doesn't appear to be a widely practiced thing and therefore a lot of species/specimens might just be under recorded, rather than actually as rare as it appears. Even more so if you think you are mothing one garden, compared to the vast amount of suitable habitat. Just a thought.Adam</blockquote>