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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CliveP" data-source="post: 3268188" data-attributes="member: 85835">Ok it's not an  8x but my 10x30 M7 is the best I've ever had for butterflies and it's wide angle is good also and it's superfast focus. I think it gets to about 1m closeness using one eye but it's very capable and bright. It's good for as detailed as antenna bands on butterflies or small damselflies munching on midges. I find it very useful but I'm still going to get a Papiio at some stage. My old Hawke Sapphire 8x43 was good for 2m with both eyes fairly comfortably but not close enough for as much detail as with one eye and the M7 10x and my Kowa is similar to the 2m @8x which is not really getting into the macro world.I'm just mentioning this when you brought it up Alexis in case it's useful info for others as I'm guessing it may not be your thing really but it's one of the strong points of the M7 for me and I think deserves praise.</blockquote>