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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CliveP" data-source="post: 3270041" data-attributes="member: 85835">Cheer up Brock <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> I've still got my 15x70 porro, on a tripod. It's just an economy Visionary HD but it's a lot of fun and surprisingly clear. I prefer it to my scope although the scope is better quality, more portable and better for distant detail but I do like using both eyes. When you think about it most scopes are single porros although I think the high end might now be roof prism?So the porro is certainly not dead, in the observation bin at least. Still makes total sense there and that's were I'm a porro fan.I can't even hold a porro comfortably anymore (especially a small one, so wide and short seems very odd) since using roofs for so long now but if I really needed hand held distant viewing (on a budget) I'd strongly consider a pair of the Visionary HD 12x60 and their 7x50 porro is reportedly very good at about $100 though not waterproof. It also seems these little 6/8x30 waterproof porros like the Kowa SV, Opticorn, Leupold, Vortex etc etc are still very popular with most optic bang for the buck.So not dead at all then basically. Just no longer the only option. Roof prisms now are an amazing thing though no doubt about it but I think these porro examples I've mentioned will always have a place. Does seem the high end midsize porro is dead though. The people have chosen. For me this Kowa 8x32 SV roof works better than the 8x30 EII I had. No faffing with eyecups for a start.  Such a great little bin. Everyday I pick it up just instant satisfaction and seems I'm the only person with a pair or that even has tried one?</blockquote>

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