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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BrownnishSkua" data-source="post: 1621946" data-attributes="member: 79711">As do I. The lappet-faced vulture and eurasian black vulture would never cross paths with the harpy of philippine's eagle, however, that doesn't mean they won't challenge them and in my opinion they are still capable of killing the eagles (though mostlikely the lappet-faced vulture and eurasian black vulture can and might dominate the harpy or philippine's monkey eagle on land at least marginally, in the air the reverse is true).Plus animals seldom kill each other just for fun they are not poachers <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. Vultures are generally more of scavengers though a few of them are capable hunters (not as efficient as eagles) as well.Regarding the experts which says vultures legs are weak, I won't say extremely weak ('Vultures of Africa' by Peter Mundy still says those feet are strong and there are accounts saying that LPVs etc have strong feet) that they can't use them to fight but they are still capable of running and fighting and grabbing (truer said of the old world vultures especially the dominanat ones) and there are experts whom say that its the old world vultures which are related to raptors and the new world vultures are more related to storks.I will send you a pm later as I have an important meeting to go to.</blockquote>

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