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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BrownnishSkua" data-source="post: 1622046" data-attributes="member: 79711">Thank you for joining this debate <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. I am glad to see another poster whom can come with challenging thoughts. Is that a blue wern in your avatar?There is an account of a brown snake eagle killing a four metres rock python and there is another which a brown snake eagle and whit-backed vultures or griffons acctually pecked holes in a python so the python taken on by the white-headed vulture might be four metres weather half dead ofully alive. I might say half dead since the white-headed vulture is not as good a hunter as an eagle though it dominates and pirates all african eagles except the martial eagle and crowned eagle. A couple or more white-headed vultures might be able to pirate a martial eagle though a poster told me about an account of a martial eagle acctually killing a white-headed vulture <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />.And tearing meat from though hide is different from tearing meat from animals with thinner skin. It is impressive regarding the performance of the philippine's eagle taking on a python, however, the eagle did lose its energy.The lappet-faced vulture and white-headed vulture are capable of tearing flesh out of a live python and can injure the python with their talons, however, I doubt a healthy live python would stay still and allow those vultures to have their way so the vultures would have to approach peck or scracth and come back again and again though it never happens and as we both agree the vultures are not as good hunters as eagles. Lappet-faced vultures do not need to tear open the soft parts of most carcasses (they can tear open fresh hide of most animals and regarding rhino, elephant, hippo, and girrafe carcasses, they would have to pick on the soft part but not on the rest - the lappet-faced vulture still has the strongest beak of all birds of prey - stronger than any eagle or vulture). If you observed the beak - its really compressed.I acctually agree with you on that one but my final opinion, beak strength: lappet-faced vulture>eurasian black vulture>steller's sea eagle>philippine's monkey eagle>white-headed vulture>griffons>harpy eagle>white-tailed eagle>bald eagle>golden eagle>martial eagle and so on and talon strength: harpy eagle>philippines eagle>crowned eagle>martial eagle>golden eagle>White-tailed eagle>bald eagle and so on.Check your pm.</blockquote>

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