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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BrownnishSkua" data-source="post: 1627201" data-attributes="member: 79711">The only measurement of beaks present is the LPVs and you are right, there is unfortunately no chart with the acctual measurements available but the book still said the LPV has the largest beak of all vultures and birds of prey but unfortunately no comparison of the actual strength with eagles though it is said the EBV is unlikely to be able to do the 'smashing' which the LPV can do (and I still believe the LPVs beak is stronger than any eagle given its diet - it acctually prefers the tougher parts of the fresh carcasses of large animals - e.g. tendon, ligament, and hide while griffons and other lesser vultures prefer the softer parts). The eurasian black vulture's beak is not that too far behind and is also capable of doing the same generally but not as well.Eagles feet are better made for quick/explosive killing, crushing, and carrying food / prey while the vultures are made for ground scrapping. I have already agreed with you that eagles are overall stronger especially pound to pound (with a few exceptions) but again vultures are on average larger. Saying that all vultures can't lift food is incorrect as lappet-faced vultures and white-headed vultures do lift food back to their nest whereas eurasian black vultures, bearded vultures, and palm nut vultures are capable of carrying food with their feet (there was only one record of the EBV doing so). The rest of the vultures are uncapable of carrying food with their feet and beaks but their feet and beaks are still used for combat against smaller eagles and each other.ThereAre at least two records of egyptian vultures killing hares in spain according to 'Vultures of Africa' by Peter Mundy and is unfortunately dominated by its less predatory cousin - the hooded vulture at carcasses, however, at ostrich eggs, it will fight vigirously to defend its food.Only new world vultures like the turkey vulture is capable of using smell to find food and thus followed by the american black vultures. Old world vultures like raptors search for food using solely sight.</blockquote>

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